This thread is a reply to CGN member "skinnadoor" question on game ammo. I would have posted it there but the were so many pics that I thought that I would start my own.
4 types of ammo were used today. 2 are FMJ (not for hunting) and 2 are Soft Point:
Norinco made 7.62
Malayian made 7.62
Federal 168 gr. Sierra MatchKing BTHP
Federal 150 gr. Power Shock 308 (sorry, no pic)
And lastly, the rifle used.
A Norinco M-14S: barrel index, tuned gas system, recoil buffer, USGI Op Rod Spring Guide, Smith Enterprise 2024 mount holding a Falcon menace 4-14 scope MP20 reticle.
All shooting was done off the bipod and were at 100 Meters except the last pic was at 200 Meters. Also all 5 shot groups had about 10-15 min cool down in between. I didn't take the caliper to the rage but were measured at home.
So, that day started off with just a couple of rounds of Norc to get the barrel fowled. Started with the Norc simply cause it was open and within arms reach.
Norinco Ammo
Loaded 5 rounds and sent them down range. In the pic it shows two groups, circled 1 and 2. First group was shots 1-5 and the second were the shots 20-25. 1: 2.33 in. and 2: 2.63 in. two holes touching Not to bad.
Malayian Ammo
Same as before. Shots 6-10 are group 1 and shots 26-30 are group 2. 1: 2.22 in. and 2: 3.50 in.
Federal Power Shock 150 gr.
Now here is the suprising part, loaded up, 5 shots down range and 3.5 hit paper on shots 10-15!!! Group 2 were shots 30-35. Not impressed with that ammo.1: 2.80 in.and 2: 3.13 in.
Federal 168 gr. Sierra MatchKing BTHP
Now this is were things start to get good. Group 1 in shots 16-20 and didn't turn out as good as I thought match ammo sure do. Group 2 is far better, shots 36-40.
1: 2.55 in. and 2: 2.28 in. two holes touching
Wanting to see how good this stuff is I set a target up at the 200 m mark. I also used a pad for the but of the rifle to get it as steady as posible. I loaded up 5 rounds, sent them away and went to inspect.
Holly cow!!! 1.62 in. with a spoiler
It did WAY better than I expected. Now there was a spoiler and that was operator error. So excluding the one, doing the math, that put's it in about the .81 MOA (not bad for a semi auto). Now weather it could do this all day long, who knows. I don't have that $$$ to buy 100 rounds of that stuff, it's pricey but it does show that you can get good preformence out of these $400 Norc's with just a little "tuning up". I'm very happy with rifle and it's not going anywhere.
4 types of ammo were used today. 2 are FMJ (not for hunting) and 2 are Soft Point:
Norinco made 7.62
Malayian made 7.62
Federal 168 gr. Sierra MatchKing BTHP
Federal 150 gr. Power Shock 308 (sorry, no pic)
And lastly, the rifle used.
A Norinco M-14S: barrel index, tuned gas system, recoil buffer, USGI Op Rod Spring Guide, Smith Enterprise 2024 mount holding a Falcon menace 4-14 scope MP20 reticle.
All shooting was done off the bipod and were at 100 Meters except the last pic was at 200 Meters. Also all 5 shot groups had about 10-15 min cool down in between. I didn't take the caliper to the rage but were measured at home.
So, that day started off with just a couple of rounds of Norc to get the barrel fowled. Started with the Norc simply cause it was open and within arms reach.
Norinco Ammo
Loaded 5 rounds and sent them down range. In the pic it shows two groups, circled 1 and 2. First group was shots 1-5 and the second were the shots 20-25. 1: 2.33 in. and 2: 2.63 in. two holes touching Not to bad.
Malayian Ammo
Same as before. Shots 6-10 are group 1 and shots 26-30 are group 2. 1: 2.22 in. and 2: 3.50 in.
Federal Power Shock 150 gr.
Now here is the suprising part, loaded up, 5 shots down range and 3.5 hit paper on shots 10-15!!! Group 2 were shots 30-35. Not impressed with that ammo.1: 2.80 in.and 2: 3.13 in.
Federal 168 gr. Sierra MatchKing BTHP
Now this is were things start to get good. Group 1 in shots 16-20 and didn't turn out as good as I thought match ammo sure do. Group 2 is far better, shots 36-40.
1: 2.55 in. and 2: 2.28 in. two holes touching
Wanting to see how good this stuff is I set a target up at the 200 m mark. I also used a pad for the but of the rifle to get it as steady as posible. I loaded up 5 rounds, sent them away and went to inspect.
Holly cow!!! 1.62 in. with a spoiler
It did WAY better than I expected. Now there was a spoiler and that was operator error. So excluding the one, doing the math, that put's it in about the .81 MOA (not bad for a semi auto
). Now weather it could do this all day long, who knows. I don't have that $$$ to buy 100 rounds of that stuff, it's pricey but it does show that you can get good preformence out of these $400 Norc's with just a little "tuning up". I'm very happy with rifle and it's not going anywhere.
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