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The Timney is single stage 4lbs.
Range Reports for Tavors with the new Geissele Triggers? Anyone?
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Timney doesn't actually make any two stage triggers
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The trigger is part and parcel with the rifle - as is chamber and barrel.
The four factors are ammo, rifle, environment and shooter as I've stated.
I'm guessing no one has posted accuracy reports due to the fact improving the trigger on these things is like putting lipstick on a pig....
The trigger is part and parcel with the rifle - as is chamber and barrel.
The four factors are ammo, rifle, environment and shooter as I've stated.
I'm guessing no one has posted accuracy reports due to the fact improving the trigger on these things is like putting lipstick on a pig....
Just 2 put in my 2 cents. A lighter trigger was easier to shoot the Tavor. I have a Gen 1 Tavor. Original trigger was 10 lb. By disconnecting the spring, the trigger was lower to 7 lb.
With a 7 lb factory trigger in the Tavor, I was shooting shotgun pattern 6-8 MOA. There was no consistency. Now, you may say I do not know how to shoot. However, with my TRG-22 and reload, I can have 3 rounds touching each other with no wind at 300 m.
When I first got the Timney trigger (Gen 1), I was getting light primer strike on AE223 ammo. With a new hammer spring, I was getting an inconsistency firing. Sent the trigger back to Accurate Action and Timney Gen 2 trigger was sent to me. Again I had problems with inconsistency firing and light primer strike. I sent the rifle to Accurate Action, and they solved the inconsistency firing by adjusting the trigger but he did not have time to solve my light primer strike. Therefore, he offered the refund to me. Throughout the whole period, Accurate Action had been extremely helpful in solving my problem. We just ran out of time.
I then bought the Geissele trigger. It is a slightly heavier trigger pull than Timney by about 1 lb. Initially when I shot with the Geissele trigger, I got an interesting grouping. 1" wide and 6" long so it is still 6 MOA but it is not a shotgun pattern anymore (using AE223). After 100 rounds, I noticed I was putting too much cheek pressure on the Tavor and causing grouping inconsistency. Now, I can get a 2 MOA using AE223 fairly easily (sandbag on forend and fire like a precision rifle). I understand that AE223 is not the most consistent ammo. However, in my experience, the Geissele trigger did improve my grouping with the Tavor. Please keep in mind my Gen 1 Tavor has over 10,000 rounds shot.
With a 7 lb factory trigger in the Tavor, I was shooting shotgun pattern 6-8 MOA. There was no consistency. Now, you may say I do not know how to shoot. However, with my TRG-22 and reload, I can have 3 rounds touching each other with no wind at 300 m.
When I first got the Timney trigger (Gen 1), I was getting light primer strike on AE223 ammo. With a new hammer spring, I was getting an inconsistency firing. Sent the trigger back to Accurate Action and Timney Gen 2 trigger was sent to me. Again I had problems with inconsistency firing and light primer strike. I sent the rifle to Accurate Action, and they solved the inconsistency firing by adjusting the trigger but he did not have time to solve my light primer strike. Therefore, he offered the refund to me. Throughout the whole period, Accurate Action had been extremely helpful in solving my problem. We just ran out of time.
I then bought the Geissele trigger. It is a slightly heavier trigger pull than Timney by about 1 lb. Initially when I shot with the Geissele trigger, I got an interesting grouping. 1" wide and 6" long so it is still 6 MOA but it is not a shotgun pattern anymore (using AE223). After 100 rounds, I noticed I was putting too much cheek pressure on the Tavor and causing grouping inconsistency. Now, I can get a 2 MOA using AE223 fairly easily (sandbag on forend and fire like a precision rifle). I understand that AE223 is not the most consistent ammo. However, in my experience, the Geissele trigger did improve my grouping with the Tavor. Please keep in mind my Gen 1 Tavor has over 10,000 rounds shot.
I like Tavors a lot, but they are not--nor are they intended to be--"benchrest accurate" rifles. If guys like the shooting experience with a better trigger that's great, but it won't...it can't...transform the rifle into something it isn't. Enjoy it for what it is--a very well-made, robust, fun-to-shoot rifle with "good enough" accuracy.
In general I shot around 6" in 5 round groups at 200m with the TAVOR, using AE 55gr. ( well, PMC M855 got spit out like buck shots no matter what). I did this with a Nightforce 1-4 NSX using 2MOA dot FC-2 reticle, using the stock trigger minus the reset spring.
This is how I did it: drop into prone and form a fist under the handguard. Make sure you have a tight firm grip of the pistol grip. The grip is much fatter and it cannot be held as high as an AR. I dry fired a lot to figure out my grip pressure and my finger placement before even attempting to shoot the rifle live. The rifle is not super difficult to shoot, but it is indeed more difficult than most of the rifles I have shot.
I stole the technique from the Brits shooting SA80....now they are issued gripod so they just use their left hands as the "pads" between the gripods and the ground.
This is how I did it: drop into prone and form a fist under the handguard. Make sure you have a tight firm grip of the pistol grip. The grip is much fatter and it cannot be held as high as an AR. I dry fired a lot to figure out my grip pressure and my finger placement before even attempting to shoot the rifle live. The rifle is not super difficult to shoot, but it is indeed more difficult than most of the rifles I have shot.
I stole the technique from the Brits shooting SA80....now they are issued gripod so they just use their left hands as the "pads" between the gripods and the ground.
