Range results

[Fenix.NZ]

hi guys..
im thinking about buying a saiga in 7.62x39
below is a pic from NZs biggest gunstore advertising the accuracy .

it looks to me like a good result with the federal ammo ..
but i have no experience with this platform or ammo..

so what you guys think ? good ?

 

[obiwanbonjovi]

That is very impressive for a kalashnikov

 

[Jay]

Lucky bum!!! Here in Canada the Saiga is a variant and prohibited as an ak... Those groups look GREAT for the 7.62x39...

Cheers
Jay

 

[Fenix.NZ]

the guys at the shop say that was done with iron sights.. dont know if i believe them but some good optics could tighten up the group i imagine

 

[Dean_1911]

wow nice groups.. i want one

 

[Fenix.NZ]

the rifle pictured is 7.62 Nato chambered , they couldnt tell me how it groups as they havent had the chance to group one yet.
im expecting it to be very similar to the above results, but what you guys think ?

oh the best part is that little muzzell brake at the end screws off so its all good for a SUPPRESSOR .. figure ill rub the rest in while i can

 

[carbonrod]

im expecting it to be very similar to the above results, but what you guys think ?

Don't get your hopes up. At least not all the time.

If you like the rifle, buy it and enjoy it, but it is extremely doubtful that an AK will do the above stated with any regularity.

 

[Fenix.NZ]

my saiga shotguns have all been exellent quality compared to the chinese aks that we have here, i havent fired / handled a saiga rifle yet though, but i dont think im hoping too much in expecting the same kinda of outward quaility, the preformance is where my doubt comes in, as you say its doubtful that an ak will maintain that kind of regularity, but then again, these have a bit more QC than the mess produced AK.

 

[venom_bullet]

i have shot alot of 7.62 out of a ak and ton on 5.45 out of an ak74, even with the 74 that shoots ten times better than the reg ak it would be hard to do those types of groups that they are claiming with the federal ammo.

 

[Deckard]

Can you get AK parts in NZ Felix, such as that stock?

 

[Fenix.NZ]

yeah every now and then parts come up for sale,

also anyone who imports from saiga can get the parts too .
theres alot of railed handguards and scope rails, that kind of thing

 

[Big_Red]

Wonder how many groups they had to fire to get one that looked like the 124gr pic?

 

[carbonrod]

Wonder how many groups they had to fire to get one that looked like the 124gr pic?

Just one out of their bolt gun if I had to guess. 30 holes look pretty much the same.

Even if they did pull that off with that ammo, it is pretty chicken sh1t to leave customers with the impression that it is representative.

 

[P.E. Islander]

An AK with a decent barrel will shoot good groups if fed good ammo.

Surplus ammo is generally #### for accuracy. Commercial ammo can be better, but some is just "blaster grade". An AK fed hand loads using high quality bullets will surprise you.

Back when we were freer and could still take an AK to the range my buddy could repeatedly shoot 1.5" groups at 100 yards with his Norinco side folding AK (in 7.62x39) - but that only happened with hand loads that used .311" or .312" bullets from Hornady and Sierra. Norinco ammo gave 4" or 5" groups from the same gun.

 

[Fenix.NZ]

the groups may have also been shot with a longer barrelled rifle, saiga make many variants

 

[obiwanbonjovi]

I would ask your supplier if he can get the saiga ver.21 with the wooden thumbhole stock. It is a much nicer rifle with a better trigger and is more comfortable.

 

[Fenix.NZ]

yeah they have those, with the shorter barrel aswell, looks much better

 

[Fenix.NZ]

here is my preference,
and it comes in .223 or 7.62x39

i prefer the front on the one posted earlier though