Rangefinders

What are you finding as the maximum range capability for the Leica and did find for the Bushnell elite on game such as Whitetails? Do you range the animals, or the terrain?

Gatehouse said:
The optics and rangefinding capabilities of the Leica I own, are better than that of the Elite, I used to own.:)

Elites are good rangefinders, though- Just don't get them too wet...;)
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Ok, I see it on the Cabellas USA website. Here is an interesting comment on the Bushnell Arc 1500:

"I bought this rangefinder recently and started putting it through its paces immediately. As far as rangefinding goes, it's quite good but does seem to have trouble with trees and bush beyond 450yds on a dull day. My big issues are with the ARC function in Rifle mode. Issue 1: the ballistics hold over/under calculation requires your rifile to be sighted in at 100yds. Most shooters that set their rifles up for long range and shoot high velocity rounds (e.g. 300Win Mag @3100fps) zero them at 200 to 300yds. In fact, max PBR (+/- 3") for this round is 314yds with a 260yd zero. I could live with a 100yd zero if the rangefinder display told me the MOA adjustment required so that I could dial in the no of clicks required - it doesn't. Ever tried judging 40" of hold over at 500 yds on a large animal like an Elk? Not easy. Issue 2: Most people I've talked to don't care about the angle of inclination being displayed. It's much more important to display the equivalent horizontal distance - which it only does in Bow mode and only up to 99yds. Overall, don't spend money on the ARC feature - I returned mine. I hope Bushnell gets the message and fixes the ARC feature because I believe that their rangefinding technology is the best for the buck out there at the moment."

Its got to be a challenge to accurately judge 40" of holdover when the reticle is aiming at air above the animal. The system of zero at 100 certainly increases the required holdover. That holdover would be good for over 500 yards with a 300WM zero'd at 200.
 
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I do not worry about the hold over, I just want the arch range and dont worry about the other crap. I will tell you why, Each of my long range either hunting or target guns have a set of balistic cards. The lets me determine the MOA for the load knowing the velocity and B.C, so I dont care about the other crap. I just want to know the distance to shoot for with the arch built in and it gives it to me out to 1500 y on tree sized objects and will mark a round bail of hay to 1000 no issues. If you turn the unit to REG mode it will Just measure teh distance to the object..

I will also say I think you will find most long range shooters will be zeroed at 100 but if you do not have enough MOA clicks there are ballistic calculators that will tell you MOA up and down zeroed at 300 yards

Mine worked great this weekend and dialed my 308 into 1 foot groups at 900 yards with only 3 sighters to adjust windage.

Regards
 
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Grizzlypeg said:
What are you finding as the maximum range capability for the Leica and did find for the Bushnell elite on game such as Whitetails? Do you range the animals, or the terrain?
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Longest I got with 1500 ARC was 980 yards. Bartell had the same model, and standing next to me he coudl go to 1200.

Leica easily goes to about 1350, I think longest reading I have had was over 1400.

I dont' think I've tried to range any animals past about 800 yards, which was easy. Never hunted whitetails, there arent' many around here.:)
 
Ya thats the one! the scout but I hear they are limited to short distance but for 299 thats not a bad deal.

To answer the range question with my 1500 eliteI got 1200 yards on a clear day on a tree, I also got 900 yards on a round bail of hay and 1150 on another. I did get once 650 on a dull foggy morning but have 1100 to 1200 yards every time I tried when clear.

There is not comparison to Lieca glass, my buddy has one they work. He also has a spotting scope again way better than any I have looked through.

Lieca equals quality.
 
Ive got an Nikon 800 which is very reliable, and ranges deer out to 450 with ease..good enough for me as I don't shoot deer past 250. If I had to do it over again I would jump on that Leica wagon...wow are they sweet and are selling for a reasonable price at CameraLand NY.

Bushnell just plain out sucks, no of their equipment is reliable and their service is at the bottom of the barrel.

Cheers!!
 
I agree scott, I should have looked at lieca as well, however I got what I got.

I dont shoot game past 300 yards but I tinker shooting paper to 1000 y and thats the only reason I got it, it gives me what I want for angle tragectory and distance plus degree. It seems accurate to 1200 yards however.

And also I shot over a nice elk a few years back on a 30 degree angle I shot for 450 yards as it told me to when I calculated it out i should have shot for 270 yards! I dont want to make that mistake again the 7x7 walked lol!!!
 
JasonYuke said:
I agree scott, I should have looked at lieca as well, however I got what I got.

I dont shoot game past 300 yards but I tinker shooting paper to 1000 y and thats the only reason I got it, it gives me what I want for angle tragectory and distance plus degree. It seems accurate to 1200 yards however.

And also I shot over a nice elk a few years back on a 30 degree angle I shot for 450 yards as it told me to when I calculated it out i should have shot for 270 yards! I dont want to make that mistake again the 7x7 walked lol!!!
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Your finder will most likely serve you well, I on the other hand have be cursed by Bushell and the service they provide :runaway:
 
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Since I got drawn for antelope I am now considering getting a rangefinder. I think the one I would get would be the Leica CRF 900, because it's about $100-120 cheaper then the Leica CRF 1200.
 
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