Rapid Transition/45 Degree Back-Up Sights

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Haven't seen much talk about these so far, can't upload a picture from my phone.

Anyone have any experience with these? The concept seems like a good idea, but what if you aren't able to get your optic up again? Do you can't your rifle until you're able to replace it....?
 
I bought a set of 45 degree BUIS for my ISSC MK22. They are easy enough to use. I originally thought it might feel awkward to rotate the gun to use them but it really isnt ( IMO YMMV ).

I have yet to sight them in though, which may be interesting due to their off angle...
 
I thought they were kinda silly. Then I spent a day using a 45 offset Razor red-dot.

After a while you realize that you don't have to chicken wing the whole rifle out. It's actually a pretty subtle transition to the reflex sight.

I think it's reasonable to say that offset sights are not primarily for hardcore war-fighter folks who might have an optic "go down" in a hyper-tactical operation, but that they're more for 3-gunners who want to zero one optic at 100 yards and another optic at 25 yards.

But if you like em: buy em! Personally I would say that an offset red-dot is cool and fun, and that offset irons might be a little less fun but still cool.
 
With the 45 offest sights you need to line them up obviously for the sight picture.

Depending on distance for their intended use by you, I do thing a small red dot/reflex sight is better mounted on a 45 off set mount. This way you just point the dot.
 
I tried an Aimpoint Micro on a 45deg offeset mount, on my Swiss Arms. I didn't like it (too bulky and kinda akward) and went back to a 1-4x scope on it rather than a 10x and the aimpoint.
 
I purchased a $35 set from ebay (Dueck knock-offs) - just to try them out.

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They work as advertised - are quick to transition to, and even this cheap set held zero perfectly well (I tried 25 and 50 meter zeros - the sights held both during rapid strings with no problem).

But after using them for a couple of range sessions, I kind of found them to be a solution in search of a problem. I believe I use my Hi-Lux 1-4 CMR for 90% of my range shooting - and nothing short of shattering it's glass is going to put that optic "down".

To be honest - even dialed up to 4x, I find it quicker to use the CMR both eyes open to acquire a target at 25m (or less) - and apply an estimated correction - than it is to cant the rifle and acquire the target through the RTS aperture.

The cheap RTS I picked up are pretty beefy units - and add more weight to my rifle than I can justify given how infrequently I would transition to them.

However - all that said - for the 35 dollar price tag, I have enjoyed adding another drill to a day on the range.
 
I bought the same ones as doubletap and they work just fine as he said. And for $35 u cant go wrong. Little lock tight on the mount screw and mine have held zero for 500rounds. If anyone wants better pics ill take some this weekend

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Played around with a TRS25 on my DMR, it was fun, conceptually, I would be able to have the scope zoomed in, and be able to transition to the red dot for <100 yards
 
got one on order from the ebay people as well.. should be here next week.. chinese delivers take forever..

going to throw them on my Ruger SR-22, when I get my actual scope setup purchased.
 
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