RCAF Marked 1903 Springfield
- Thread starter Mike Webb
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- The Kawartha Lakes Region in Ontario
Can you post a pic of the real deal? I would be genuinely curious to see the difference.
This gun is the "real deal". Why would anyone fake RCAF markings on a rifle that was drilled for a scope mount with a butchered bolt. No money in that which is what the fakers are after.
It would have been good to see a before and after. The RCAF stamp raises questions. Like, why is there no "C" Broad arrow and it seems to be the wrong overall shape.
This is a RCAF Canadian issue M1917, The RCAF arrow covers over the top or the C A
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This is a RCAF Canadian issue M1917, The RCAF arrow covers over the top or the C A
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- SE corner Sk
Very nice!!
- Location
- The Kawartha Lakes Region in Ontario
My question was more towards what pcvando considers to be a “real” stamping, I wasn’t questioning the legitimacy of the rifle itself.
The RCAF stamp is definitely fake.
Wrong font, wrong dimensions, wrong broad arrow angles and size, spacing, length, etc.
You can also tell it wasn't done as one "stamp" but rather by someone using a screw driver blade, or "I" letter stamp to try and get the broad arrow done correctly, but they failed.
I have owned legitimate examples of rifles and bayonets with the "RCAF" cartouch, and seen many original examples. OP's is not one.
Also, some people above asked "why would anyone fake one", well... because it adds value. People will fake almost anything to make a dime.
My experience comes from years of collecting, handling, owning and researching this stuff.
If this rifle had a legitimate stamp under this "new" stamp, someone totally ruined it. Something is only original once.
Wrong font, wrong dimensions, wrong broad arrow angles and size, spacing, length, etc.
You can also tell it wasn't done as one "stamp" but rather by someone using a screw driver blade, or "I" letter stamp to try and get the broad arrow done correctly, but they failed.
I have owned legitimate examples of rifles and bayonets with the "RCAF" cartouch, and seen many original examples. OP's is not one.
Also, some people above asked "why would anyone fake one", well... because it adds value. People will fake almost anything to make a dime.
My experience comes from years of collecting, handling, owning and researching this stuff.
If this rifle had a legitimate stamp under this "new" stamp, someone totally ruined it. Something is only original once.
Anyone ever see an RCAF marked Garand? When I went through basic in St Jean’s Que in 1958 our limited musketry was not with Lee Enfields or the incoming FN’s but with Garands. When I asked why I was told because the only bases with a small arms armoury were our four wings in Europe, two in France, two in West Germany. Base and Perimeter security was with American forces and so our armouries were equipped to complement the American forces.
Original pics are in thread RCAF rifles ww2 and beyond. One pic showing Rcaf butt stock marking before refinish. Maybe it is bogus but my friend who owns it said there were two Springfields with identical markings, both drilled on the siderail for scope mounts. Maybe the original pics will be better.
