RCBS Dies & Sticking Cases = Garbage!!!

Any time I've ever had problems with a die, it's always been a RCBS. I bought a set of Hornady dies for my 308 years ago and was sold on them. Now all my rifle dies are Hornady. There is nothing RCBS in my reloading room.
 
You should give them a call since they don't know that.

From: rcbs tech [mailto:rcbs.tech@ATK.COM]
Subject: RE: Where are your presses, dies, and other products made

All products with the exception of electronic items are made in our factory in (Oroville, California).

Thank you,

S. Ennes
Technical Service Manager
ATK/RCBS Operation
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It's amazing just how that rumor about RCBS presses and dies and such being made in China, has gotten around, and how many people believe it.
 
First off, before laying blame, disassemble the dies and clean them, then set up properly. That was your first mistake, and don't complain that the decapper is off center, ....adjust it properly!! Over crimping? ...operator error again!!

With about 115 sets of dies, well over 100 are RCBS and I've yet to see a problem with the manufacturer!!!

If your new car/truck has a flat, who's to blame?
 
Arctic said:
First off, before laying blame, disassemble the dies and clean them, then set up properly. That was your first mistake, and don't complain that the decapper is off center, ....adjust it properly!! Over crimping? ...operator error again!!

With about 115 sets of dies, well over 100 are RCBS and I've yet to see a problem with the manufacturer!!!

If your new car/truck has a flat, who's to blame?
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More like, if you put dirty water in the fuel tank, or hold the accelerator on the floor until you crash, is it the manufacturers fault?
 
I have well over 100 sets of RCBS dies and have loaded 10s of thousands of rounds with them in everything from 9mm to 45 LC and 25-20 and 17 Rem to 470 NE and the only problems I've had in the past 40 years have been of my own creation.
 
Easy to make your own stuck case remover with drill bit, tap, bolt, socket. Most decent shop will have all these tools (except perhaps a tap set).
mlehtovaara said:
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P.S. If anyone wants a RCBS .270 WIN sizing die, with a case stuck in it, pay the shipping and its yours. The rim of the case is broken off, but if you have a stuck case remover it will come out I imagine.
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Yup, another satisfied RCBS user, The only time a die of any make has failed me i have to look in the mirror to see what happened, except for a set of 30-06 Lee dies that won't size the neck enough to hold a bullet.
 
They get great reviews from those classed to be experts in the reloading field.
I quote:

RCBS is a favorite of many loaders, and there's a reason for it - they make good stuff, and they stand behind it. Cost is more reasonable than some other manufacturers', and all of their reloading gear is guaranteed forever. Most of it is built to last a lifetime, but even if it doesn't, I and many others have found that RCBS takes their guarantee seriously, and they happily replace any defective - or even worn-out & damaged parts - which others would not..
 
except for a set of 30-06 Lee dies that won't size the neck enough to hold a bullet.
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If the sizing button is too big, that's an easy fix in a drill press with some (fine) emery cloth. If the diameter of the sizing 'bushing' (I realize it's not actually a bushing) is too big, then the die is scrap.

....just in case you still have the die and want to fix it...
 
Brand loyalty/ignorance for me comes up most often with cameras. Nikon vs. Canon is the usual feud. Nikon users say Canon are crap and Canon users say Nikon are crap. If one produced crap products and the other produced excellent products, and they both had a similar price point, why are they both still in business? I shoot Nikon because it's what I grew up with as my dad shot Nikon. Canon are just as viable but I'm just not as used to them. I generally roll my eyes at anyone who swears by one and says the other is inferior.

It's the same deal with reloading tools. If RCBS products where so inferior, they would go out of business. If Lee products where all garbage, they would likewise go out of business. They are both good enough value for the dollar that they have been in business for decades and continue to grow.
 
LUTNIT said:
Brand loyalty/ignorance for me comes up most often with cameras. Nikon vs. Canon is the usual feud. Nikon users say Canon are crap and Canon users say Nikon are crap. If one produced crap products and the other produced excellent products, and they both had a similar price point, why are they both still in business? I shoot Nikon because it's what I grew up with as my dad shot Nikon. Canon are just as viable but I'm just not as used to them. I generally roll my eyes at anyone who swears by one and says the other is inferior.

It's the same deal with reloading tools. If RCBS products where so inferior, they would go out of business. If Lee products where all garbage, they would likewise go out of business. They are both good enough value for the dollar that they have been in business for decades and continue to grow.
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So true ... Canon is crap :p
 
Send them 223 dies to me... I haven't yet started reloading for 223 but will be doing soon :)

I'll pay shipping of course, if you're serious about getting rid of them :)
 
Flying_Finn said:
I don't know about the ragging on LEE dies. I made the mistake of buying a set of RCBS .223 dies. They would not properly nor reliably size the necks of the brass. One would be snug enough to hold the bullet before going into the LEE crimping die. The RCBS seating die would not put any crimp on the neck of the brass. If you adjusted the die to where it would crimp it would crumple the neck as well. Before anyone says to cut the brass down it was all trimmed and miked to SAAMI specs. Ordered a LEE set and began to run through brass. What a surprise, no problem. I even went through finding the most up to date RCBS die manual in to ensure there was no weird setup requirement.

I was not impressed at all since I could have gotten the LEE dies first and saved money, some brass and a bunch of time and frustration.

Anyone need a set of .223 RCBS dies? They supposedly worked fine for the fellow I got them from. For me, no such luck.
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Hahaha....no, I was referring to this one, post #25...another RCBS user with bad luck. Yeah, Malice was real fast with post number 2 :)
 
IIRC I bought my first rifle dies in 97. A used set of RCBS 308win. I still have them and for the 20 or 30 bucks I paid for them and for the thousands and thousands of rounds loaded with them they could crumble into dust tomorrow and I would still be happy with them and re-buy with no hesitation.

9 times out of 10 if someone is having a problem with a die it is the operator.
I own Lee, Redding, Forster and Rcbs dies and they all work for me.
 
c-fbmi said:
I have well over 100 sets of RCBS dies and have loaded 10s of thousands of rounds with them in everything from 9mm to 45 LC and 25-20 and 17 Rem to 470 NE and the only problems I've had in the past 40 years have been of my own creation.
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X2, except my die count is a bit lower at around 80 sets.
I also have sets from Redding, CH4D & Forster. No Lee though.
I stuck a case in an RCBS die about 30 years ago...forgot to lube the sucker! Guess who I had to blame for that?? lol.
RCBS are good tools. Warranty is second to none, if you need it.
Regards, Eagleye
 
No doubt RCBS dies works with all the praises from the fanboys; fair enough, works great for them.


Can someone reiterate why LEE is garbage. I use many of their pistol dies, works great. So why the hate for LEE?
 
burnaby said:
No doubt RCBS dies works with all the praises from the fanboys; fair enough, works great for them.


Can someone reiterate why LEE is garbage. I use many of their pistol dies, works great. So why the hate for LEE?
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Myself, I don't particularly like the expander stem collet.
 
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