RCMP inspection of converted auto

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I purchased a Zastava M70B (AK47) converted auto in January of 2012. The RCMP requested to examine it and received on 13th February 2012. I kept phoning them for a possible return date and they kept saying "I dunno". I started to contact my local MP and Vic Toews and they really didnt help. I finally contacted MP Garry Breitkreuz of Saskatchewan. His staff found out that the rifle was scheduled to be examined on the 28th of January 2013. Why the RCMP couldnt just tell me this is a wonder Apparantly it wasnt converted to their liking and it was sent to a gunsmith in Ottawa to be converted properly. I dont know who is paying for all this but it isnt me. Then it is going to be sent back to the RCMP for a second examination. Hopefully it wont be another year.

So I deceided to see just how busy the RCMP firearms section is. I'm sure they do more than just examine converted autos. I filed a freedom of information. I found out they received 16 converted autos for inspection in 2012. They have not completed a single one.

So if your buying a converted auto be expected to have long delays.
 
Man that is some serious BS, since when did they come up with this new policy that they have to inspect all these converted autos. What a serious waste of CFC resources and tax payer dollars. I also feel badly for the actual owners of these firearms.
 
Funny, all the CA guns were registed with a description of the work that was done to them and a warning that alterations would void the certificate. Now the RCMP are doing there own alterations? Something does not seem right to me.

Also FWIW I have the transcript of my case where a CA Uzi was confiscated by the RCMP because it did not meet their conversion standards. I specifically asked if it could be modified and was told that that was impossible, there was no provision for altering a converted gun.
 
The backlog has nothing to do with how many firearms are processed it has to do with the fact that it is all harrassment. The longer they take the less people will buy or own them, there is a post on cgn here, one member spent 3 years to get a decision on his sten. Just remember that by there original timeline they would not even be doing this kind of work, all the prohibs would have been forfitted at this point as well as all the semi's, handguns and any thing else the antigun groups fingered as undesirable in the early 90's
 
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Try finding a contact through the CFC to directly inquire with. Work with that person until you track down the people working with your file (the firearm) and stay on them. A couple calls a week constantly would likely expedite the circumstance.

And as always document date, time, who you spoke with and what they said. You don't need to be an ass and record audio but at least a log of what efforts you've been taking.

That way in a couple months you can start running up the chain
 
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You right about dicoouraging purchases. I was looking at a couple of more converted autos to buy. But who wants to wait a year to take possession.
 
mrsmitty said:
Man that is some serious BS, since when did they come up with this new policy that they have to inspect all these converted autos. What a serious waste of CFC resources and tax payer dollars. I also feel badly for the actual owners of these firearms.
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It's partly to discourage people, but it's partly also how bureaucracy works. When programs are eliminated, like the administration of the LGR, a lot of bureaucrats don't just get fired - they get shuffled to other places. Lots of the arbitrary increases in red tape we've seen since abolition are, at least partly, a result of that phenomenon.
 
those of us who "survived" the purges of the early to mid ninetys and still have ours today still won't trust the cfc or the police- what the heck a big freakin washer welded to my takedown pin does i'll never know-but that's their idea- nothing like changing the rules in the MIDDLE of the game to suit yourself
 
Shooting Centre said:
Funny, all the CA guns were registed with a description of the work that was done to them and a warning that alterations would void the certificate. Now the RCMP are doing there own alterations? Something does not seem right to me.
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Looks like a good way to say Nope alterations were done, sorry certificate Void !After it is kicked around for a few more months no one will have any recollection of authorising said alterations I would bet.
 
I think I will call Gary Breitkreuz myself, I sent in copies of my paperwork (I have had a G1-FN sitting since Feb. 2011) to my MP (Kenny) and the PM and Toews and have not heard anything. Thanks for the info.
 
You can also try a freedom of information request. It only costs $5 and I got a very quick response. The form is on the internet
 
If you belong to an association like" Canadian Hand Gun,NFA " or such that have lawyers that know gun laws and such, I would contact them, have a lawyer send a letter,stealing is stealing no matter what they(CFO,RCMP,L.E.O) call it.
When I deal with anyone - get it in writing ,then I call them 1 or 2 times a week (write it down, who you talk to )find out who's handling you firearm call them ,until you get your property back,
 
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Chilling is it not. That the cpc took out the lgr, but left the absolutely most illegal parts of the system and laws in place. That a tech in a dept can have your property revoked with no compensation or even explination other then it can be converted to automatic is a crime. Just proves how far reaching the antigun groups were able to get.

I wish you all luck, I hope that one day these fine firearms can be used and not just left to be destroyed.
 
Shooting Centre said:
Funny, all the CA guns were registed with a description of the work that was done to them and a warning that alterations would void the certificate. Now the RCMP are doing there own alterations? Something does not seem right to me.
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My CA Grease Gun came with a certificate that the conversion had been inspected and approved by the CFC. It was signed by our friend Mr Osterschnauser. :)

With all this burocratic BS going on these days I am glad I have the CA's that I do. There is one more I'd like but don't have the cash for it at the moment and with the state of CA ownership it would be just as fulfilling to staple a stack of $100 bills to my wall. :(


Also FWIW I have the transcript of my case where a CA Uzi was confiscated by the RCMP because it did not meet their conversion standards. I specifically asked if it could be modified and was told that that was impossible, there was no provision for altering a converted gun.
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I have seen some CA's that have covers welded in place. Thus if the gun begins to malfunction or something breaks it is impossible to fix or remedy. I wonder what they would do if a CA malfunctioned and went FA but the thing was welded shut as per their requirements? By law we are prevented from fixing a gun that will get us in trouble with the law? I love CDN gun laws sometimes. :(
 
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