RCMP serivce pistol?
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lol, not quite.... The Smith is a very accurate gun. It just needs a better trigger. but for it's intended purpose with us(genereal duty work), a lighter trigger isn't really an option.
After using quite a few guns, including Sigs, Berettas, 1911's, etc, I very much prefer the Glock.
Consistent trigger for every shot, great mag capacity, terrific reliability, and more than accurate for the type of stuff a pistol is meant for.
In fact, my next purchase from Mark will probably be a G19 to go with my G17.
Ok, here's a picture of my long term loan pistol.
Hey Mark how the heck did you get that pistol? If you ever want to sell it please let me know.
As WP already stated it's fairly accurate. The only complaint is the trigger. My trigger is smooth but only because I shoot it a lot. Still it's a 12 pound trigger pull for every shot. That being said I happen to like this pistol.
My pistol has the Hogue grip on it. I found this helps stablize the pistol and definately improved my accuracy. The hogue grip was added at Depot by the firearms guys. You can see it's a bit worn these days.
Hey Mark how the heck did you get that pistol? If you ever want to sell it please let me know.
As WP already stated it's fairly accurate. The only complaint is the trigger. My trigger is smooth but only because I shoot it a lot
. Still it's a 12 pound trigger pull for every shot. That being said I happen to like this pistol. My pistol has the Hogue grip on it. I found this helps stablize the pistol and definately improved my accuracy. The hogue grip was added at Depot by the firearms guys. You can see it's a bit worn these days
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Here is a picture right off the FRT tables
This is the 3953, just FYI - the single stack, 3.6" barrel version for tiny-handed folk. Alloy frame makes it quite a handful when it barks!
Squirrley11
Regular
Are all the mounties guns Marked like that? Boy I wish ours were! And what is the RCMP planning on switching to for a new duty pistol M&P9's???? On the range for use of force qual this year I got to shoot the other 4046 compared to our new m&ps .40cal of course noticed a world of difference between the 2 much prefer the m&p so much I went a bought myself a 9mm one
I had a 3913 (TDA version of the single stack) it was very accurate for such a stubby barrel. People do knock them, but the third generation Smiths were/are very good pistols, I put about 5000 rounds through mine with no issues and good accuracy.
As of a week ago, I learned that Smith & Wesson just finished a new run of 700 5946 pistols to help the RCMP with inventory levels for the huge influx of recruits which have eaten up the previous "War stock" that the force had held. Seems like the 5946 isn't going anywhere for a very long time.
When I was first issued the 5946, I absolutely hated it due to the trigger. Over the last number of years, it has kinda grown on me. Once you master the trigger pull (after thousands of hours of dry firing), you'll find the chunk to be quite accurate. But that being said, unless a person is committed to practicing with it, it is hard to stay good with it. I too would love to try the M&P's just for the weight reduction on the ole duty belt.
I've shot the M&P. I'd like to keep my 5946
When I first got mine I was convinced that the SIG was the far superior pistol. While it probably is, I have really grown to like my 5946. It has good accuracy. It's a decent pistol. Only two FTF with a lot of ammo going through it. Both were ammo related failures.
When I first got mine I was convinced that the SIG was the far superior pistol. While it probably is, I have really grown to like my 5946. It has good accuracy. It's a decent pistol. Only two FTF with a lot of ammo going through it. Both were ammo related failures.
Most range reports make the Sig a superior CQB weapon, but the 5946 the winner for pure accuracy. Of course, that's with the old DA/SA P226. The DAK version would likely lose its advantage in that respect.
Another difference from the regular stainless 5946, is that the matte black model does not have a mag disconnect safety, a standard feature on all the stainless duty guns. This accounts for much, if not all, of the superior trigger pull on the matte black versions.
Another difference from the regular stainless 5946, is that the matte black model does not have a mag disconnect safety, a standard feature on all the stainless duty guns. This accounts for much, if not all, of the superior trigger pull on the matte black versions.
Steve David
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I have a 5906 with a Performance Center trigger job, I love the gun, hate the adjustable rear sight, much rather have Novak's, but I wanted a 5906 and that is the only 12(6) 5906 I came across in the years looking for one so I bought it and even though I love the gun, and it is a great shooter and very accurate, my factory stock SIG P226 will out shoot the 5906 at any distance on our range. I know a lot of shooters do not like the steel framed S&W auto's, I like them, I have had a few 4506's, loved them, a 1006 it was a great shooter, and 469, it was awsome, Stevo owns that gun now, and a 3946 and a 3913, all very good guns for me.
The black pistols currently issued do not have a superior trigger at all. I've shot and issued a large number of them, and I can tell you there's no advantage over the silver pistols. In fact, some of the ones I've used have had worse triggers than some of the sliver guns.
Marks' 5946 is a very different gun compared to the issued one, and has had the trigger reworked by S&W, which is the only reason it has a much better trigger.
The spring under the mag disconnect 'safety' plunger doesn't affect the trigger to any significant degree, if at all. All it does is put enough tension on a lever to disconnect the trigger until a mag is inserted.
The trigger pull is dictated by the hammer spring(I think thats the name...) in the backstrap of the pistol.
The magazine safety is disabled simply by the removal of the spring from the ejector depressor plunger. I would be surpised if you could feel a difference in the trigger pull over the GD pistols. The age of the springs have a lot more to do with how the trigger pull feels.
Neal
Neal
Drill out the "cup" a bit... you'd be amazed at how much that improves the trigger pull... also polish all the contacting surfaces... these two items alone will vastly improve the feel and weight on the trigger pull. To improve it beyond that gets more difficult.
Mark
