Re: Dillon Super 1050 .223 Rental

Henry Nierychlo

Henry Nierychlo

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Re: Dillon Super 1050 .223 Rental

Hi Guys
I'm considering getting a Dillon Super 1050 for .223 and wondering if there would be any consequences if I rented it to reloaders in the Lower Mainland of B.C.
Also, I wonder if there would be any interest from members in my area.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Henry
 
I don't see the rental of the press itself as a big legal issue - it's just equipment. Selling reloaded rounds, as you're no doubt aware, is different... all you're doing here is furnishing a piece of equipment and leaving individuals to their own devices.

I'd definitely keep yourself within arm's length of it for troubleshooting purposes though; you don't want a rookie breaking anything because of inexperience...

Interesting concept: come in, roll your own...

-M
 
I've considered doing the same. It seems a waste of equipment if it's sitting idle.

My take on this is it is similar to the wine shops that allow you to use thier equipment to brew your own wine. You are there to guide, trouble shoot, assist with load development, but at the end of the day, they load thier own ammo.

In my case, I'm just loading 9mm at the moment, and have the Mr.Bulletfeeder to smooth things out. I'm hoping to also add the P/W Autodrive kit this month.

There are only two gremlins that seem to cause my presses (current and past) to puke. Poorly sorted brass, and the odd primer misfeed.

If I get the PW kit, I may pre-process brass in bulk, and possibly pre-prime so that if guys are coming over to load, all they need to worry about is verifying the powder visually, and periodicly topping up the powder, brass, and bullet hoppers.
 
As far as i know, there would not be any liability issues, as long as you do not give advice on loads, etc.

However - I also have thought about renting my Dillon XL-650 to my shooting buddies to help defray the cost of the machine
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Recently, while showing my best friend how to reload 9mm, he managed to break the decapping pin, the shellplate, and the indexing ring.
I was right beside him, he was being careful, but his inexperience caused this.

The Dillon XL-650 has a lifetime unconditional guarantee, the 1050 has one year, as it is considered to be commercial.

I'm getting my parts for free, but nobody will ever use my machine again but me.
 
Henry Nierychlo said:
Hi Canuck223
Thanks for your input.
I'm curious as to which case lube you use & how you do it?
Regards, Henry
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I processed a ton of police range .223 and never had a problem using Dillon Carbide dies and Dillon case lube.

I cut a box (18x24 or so) so only a 3 inch lip remained. I'd toss in cases like french fries, and give them a quick spritz from about a foot over the box, a quick shake, and let them dry. The alcohol would wick the lube completely around the case and then evaporate.

You will also want to get and use a Dillon case guage, to make damn sure the cases are not under or over sized.

The only problem I had in processing once fired .223 was a batch of soft Federal. Sized in the same dies, the federal brass was below minimum on the guage.
 
If I get the PW kit, I may pre-process brass in bulk, and possibly pre-prime so that if guys are coming over to load, all they need to worry about is verifying the powder visually, and periodicly topping up the powder, brass, and bullet hoppers.
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I like this idea of yours. Any idea what you would charge for pre-processing the brass & priming?
Regards, Henry
 
I'm not familiar with a 1050 and don't know how "foolproof" it is, but a 650 sure is not foolproof. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, and sooner or later do, and if you are not familiar with the "feel" of the machine you'll give the handle an un-knowing hard pull and break something. There are certain times when a hard pull is needed and expected (e.g. when the case is being sized, or when pulling a case out over an expander button, but there are other portions of the cycling where there should never be any significant resistance felt (for example, when indexing the shell plate; a sideways primer will interfere with the indexing).

I do let the odd person use my 650, and will likely continue to do so, but sometimes it really hurts to watch and I have to sit on my hands and bite my tongue. And occasionally order replacement parts.
 
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