BeaverMeat
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Nanaimo, B.C.
I have read that some finishing processes will soften the metallurgy of the Vz58 reciever. Is this true? What is the best finish for the Vz58?
Thanks is advance
Thanks is advance
Re-finishing a Vz58
- Thread starter BeaverMeat
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That was nitro carburizing wasn't it? I believe NEA did a bunch then later found that the heat of the process would anneal parts of the receiver. Not all rifles were affected but ya. The locking lugs would gall I believe. Paint is the best option for even colour, the gas blocks are usually stainless and receivers turn plum when blued. Cerakote would be my choice with Arma-coat a close second.
It wasn't NEA, it was Rausch tactical. The nitrocarburizing wasn't done properly and the receivers were softened. The points where the locking block engaged deformed causing excess headspace, then, eventually it stopped the bolts fore and aft travel. The finish on the barrel lived up to the promise of corrosion resistance, but that's all. I have a like new rifle with 600 rds down the pipe that is cooked.
The guy who did the work never had the decency to return my attempts to contact him.
Thanks for nothing Sean Rausch.
The guy who did the work never had the decency to return my attempts to contact him.
Thanks for nothing Sean Rausch.
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BeaverMeat
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nanaimo, B.C.
Ahh. I remember now. Actually... I wouldn't mind a reciver with a plum tone... how would parkerizing look on a Vz58.
TV-PressPass
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Mountains, Alberta
Ahhh that's right! I forgot all about that little nightmare!
Haha it's just so easy to blame NEA 
My mistake, the other craphole outfit lol. I would contact Arma-coat and ask if they have pics of parkerized VZ's. They've offered Armacoated VZ's before and like to park steel before coating. Perhaps they can provide pics or some useful insight.
My mistake, the other craphole outfit lol. I would contact Arma-coat and ask if they have pics of parkerized VZ's. They've offered Armacoated VZ's before and like to park steel before coating. Perhaps they can provide pics or some useful insight.
So did you ever get the problem fix...or do you still stuck with a NFG CZ.
jeepcjaholic
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island B.C.
nevr foregt
Is there any way to repair this? Same as my rifle
jeepcjaholic
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island B.C.
Was going to contact Dlask to see if mine could be repaired.
Could always use this
Did you buy it at a Dodge dealership ? Have to refinish mine... because of fast rate of fire
I've inquired about getting a new receiver with the CZ repair depot, but it's been about 5 months without an answer. I called CZ in the Czech Republic and they made it sound pretty simple. I'm hopeful, but not holding my breath.
I would be interested in taking on a project like this , so if you have no success with cz...etc. I might be interested in taking it off your hands. So keep me in mind.
Cheers
Brian
Just remembered there was a guy on here thats was making new cz 858 receivers...don't remember his name but maybe a search might find his postings.
Sure fire way to induce malfunctions.
Could always use this
The barrels are pinned in, and press fitted, yes. Heating the receiver end while chilling the barrel in the freezer can help fitting slightly.
To remove the barrel from a 'live' receiver or to place a new one in, will likely require a press of some ability and jig of a sorts. The purpose of the jig is more to hold the receiver to keep it from buckling or deforming during the process of removing or replacing the barrel. An 'offset' press may be required to remove the barrel from a live receiver or, something that can pull with a great deal of force, as far as I have looked into it. There are some videos on the internets that might prove helpful if you're looking to do this.
As for refinishing, what about cerakote?
Travis Bickle
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Upper Lower Middle Alberta
I sand blasted my CZ858 years ago.
Then did black cerakoat on the whole thing and cooked her in the over to harden it.
It shot many many rounds after that with zero issues whatsoever.
The sand just dusts off the #### paint finish.
The heat required to harden it is very low, lower than gun probably even gets during heavy firing.
Here is a couple pics of it redone:
Not hard to do at all. The CZ is about as simple of a forearm to fully disassemble as they come to do the work.
Just plug the inner receiver/barrel up very well with clay and tape when you do the light sand blasting obviously.
It was also very durable actually, surprisingly so. Took the heat of many thousands of rounds after and a lot of rough handling in the woods etc
I sold her shortly before the ban. It's one of the ones I regret still.
Then did black cerakoat on the whole thing and cooked her in the over to harden it.
It shot many many rounds after that with zero issues whatsoever.
The sand just dusts off the #### paint finish.
The heat required to harden it is very low, lower than gun probably even gets during heavy firing.
Here is a couple pics of it redone:
Not hard to do at all. The CZ is about as simple of a forearm to fully disassemble as they come to do the work.
Just plug the inner receiver/barrel up very well with clay and tape when you do the light sand blasting obviously.
It was also very durable actually, surprisingly so. Took the heat of many thousands of rounds after and a lot of rough handling in the woods etc
I sold her shortly before the ban. It's one of the ones I regret still.
