Really big problem .

Cleftwynd said:
I highly doubt you need to resize the bullets, measure the diameter in several spots with a micrometer and check for yourself before you waste time and money on tools you don't need.
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Don't worry.. a little overpressure in a large case with 200+ grains of powder wont do much in the way of damage....

As long as you don't have too many marks on them or are visually different, they might be OK.

Lee and C4HD makes bullet sizer dies....

Just my 2 cents... take it for what its worth....
 
Kazman1960 said:
Well i thought it best to squeeze the trigger , that way , if the round was to fire , it would (a) at least gone off , ( b) i wouldn't of felt comfortable putting the rifle back in my truck with a loaded round in it and "hot" to fire , so , i took the chance and sqeezed the trigger to see if it was going to fire . With no fire ,. trigger lock was then placed in possition and rifle back home . But , i still have a loaded round in the breach !
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if the bolt isnt fully locked and the round managed to go off when you pulled the trigger you could have gotten a very large amount of fire and shrapnel in your face
 
Slow Down ---- work on one cal/rifle at a a time

Here's the issue's i have been having , 30-06 Beneli semi , relaods are not ejecting
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Are you using load data for a bolt gun or a semi (load data for Garand ? should work) a bolt gun data might or might not work -(pressure curve at the gas port)

did your re-sized unloaded brass (without a bullet) fit before you reloaded them ?
 
Kazman1960 said:
Latest update .

I measured some of the projectiles , they are ( according to my micrometer ) 5.10 to 5.13 , i only measured 12 out of 5oo to start with so , i would say not too bad .

Lastly , i fixed my bench using 2.5 inch thick rough cut lumber with 1/4 steel plate on top for extra rigidity .

I full length sized 22 casings , to my amazement , i even managed to de-prime them without too much fuss .

Before the bench fix , i had to punch out the primers withj a 1/8 punch .

Now for the part i don't understand . Out of the 22 i re sized i now have 12 that will cycle through the chamber without jamming , the other 10 will still not go through .

Still , its a better average than what was happening 2 days ago .
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Anneal your cases and read your manuals.
 
Kazman1960 said:
Now for the part i don't understand . Out of the 22 i re sized i now have 12 that will cycle through the chamber without jamming , the other 10 will still not go through .

Still , its a better average than what was happening 2 days ago .
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Its coming along. If your final sizing has the shellholder tight up against the die, you can do couple things. Mill a little off the bottom of the die, so they'll go in a bit more, or just cull the ones that don't size enough.
If your shellholder is just touching the die, don't be scared to tighten a little more, sometime an extra thou is all you need.
Once you get through this, and fire the ones that chamber good, you won't have to go through all this headache again, you'll see.......
 
Dmay said:
Its coming along. If your final sizing has the shellholder tight up against the die, you can do couple things. Mill a little off the bottom of the die, so they'll go in a bit more, or just cull the ones that don't size enough.
If your shellholder is just touching the die, don't be scared to tighten a little more, sometime an extra thou is all you need.
Once you get through this, and fire the ones that chamber good, you won't have to go through all this headache again, you'll see.......
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I'll try that for sure . Just a 1/4 turn more if i can get it .
 
Kazman, I'm gonna say it again. But two big name reloading manuals - Hornady and Sierra do it for me - buy ABC's of Reloading, whatever edition you can get, and settle down and learn to reload for a .30'06. This forum is NOT the best source of information. You will get wildazz guesses from fools, plain wrong advice from nexperts, and even the most accurate advice from a well-intentioned, knowledgable member will still be a guess at what your problem is. To my knowldege, membership on this forum is free, and it costs nothing to post, nor do you need to pay to read the posts. The information contained herein is worth exactly what you pay.

It really ain't all that difficult, but take it easy, go slow, and for god's sake, don't ramp up three new loads in for three different rifles and dash off and try them all out! One step at a time, change one variable at a time, document, document, and think about it. Eventually you will learn what the manuals are talking about, and be able to do marvelous things at your bench. But not the first time out!!
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
Wow....you need a mentor!

Where are you located?
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I agree!! One rifle, one load at a time. It may take a few days or months to get a load, when you do move on to the next gun and start it all over. Make notes of everything you do, everything that works and everything that doesn't work. Keep these notes for EVERY rifle. Always start at the minimum load and work your way up .5 of a grain at a time.

Get many books and read them, and compare data from each book.

And please don't EVER pull the trigger on a 50 that is partially out of battery!! You could have hurt or even killed yourself!! The best thing that could have happened was that the round didnt go off!!

Please be careful, reloading can be vary dangerous for both you and anyone else at the range that day.

Please get a mentor,

Steve
 
Kazman 1960.............That is exactly what I was saying about the 50, now take the ones that don't chamber and relube them and set your die for absolute minimum headspace by setting it down to touch the shell holder then add 1/8 to 1/4 turn until you get a healthy cam over with the handle and run your cases through again. This will do it believe me, the problem is not with the rifle or the brass but with spring in your reloading equipment and it is very common with the 50.
I also fire all cases in my rifle for all calibers before trimming, otherwise you must retrim after firing because you will see big differences in brass length even with pretrimmed brass. So unless you're a freak who loves trimming cases fire all first then trim to the shortest or to book spec if they are all long enough.
Once you get all your .50 brass fired in your rifle you won't have to go through this procedure again, bottom line if they come out of that chamber then they must go back in. I still check every case before I load it, just 'cause.................
 
c-fbmi said:
Kazman 1960.............That is exactly what I was saying about the 50, now take the ones that don't chamber and relube them and set your die for absolute minimum headspace by setting it down to touch the shell holder then add 1/8 to 1/4 turn until you get a healthy cam over with the handle and run your cases through again. This will do it believe me, the problem is not with the rifle or the brass but with spring in your reloading equipment and it is very common with the 50.
I also fire all cases in my rifle for all calibers before trimming, otherwise you must retrim after firing because you will see big differences in brass length even with pretrimmed brass. So unless you're a freak who loves trimming cases fire all first then trim to the shortest or to book spec if they are all long enough.
Once you get all your .50 brass fired in your rifle you won't have to go through this procedure again, bottom line if they come out of that chamber then they must go back in. I still check every case before I load it, just 'cause.................
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Thanks everyone for the advice . I did pick up and am reading the Hornady re load book . However , i am still having issue's trying to re size some of the Brass . I did what the book and most people were telling me . I lubed up the press , lubed up the brass , started resizing from half way down the casing all the way to the bottom . I made sure the die was touching the shell holder . Success !!! well sort of . First day i did 20 and had 12 that chambered , yesterday , feeling good about the previous day , i went for 15 and only got 3 to chamber . Can anyone tell me how many strokes it should take to resize the brass on the 50 ? I am working my way down from approx half way right until it bottoms out , taking only a small bite at a time , i am averaging 25 strokes , is that enough ? is there something else i should be doing ? Once again , this is ONLY when trying to use the military brass .
 
Tinman204 said:
I agree!! One rifle, one load at a time. It may take a few days or months to get a load, when you do move on to the next gun and start it all over. Make notes of everything you do, everything that works and everything that doesn't work. Keep these notes for EVERY rifle. Always start at the minimum load and work your way up .5 of a grain at a time.

Get many books and read them, and compare data from each book.

And please don't EVER pull the trigger on a 50 that is partially out of battery!! You could have hurt or even killed yourself!! The best thing that could have happened was that the round didnt go off!!

Please be careful, reloading can be vary dangerous for both you and anyone else at the range that day.

Please get a mentor,

Steve
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Just to continue . I alsom have a 243 and a 308 that i am loading for . I am not having issue's with these . The only issue i had with the 30-06 is , i think , likely caused by too lite of a powder chareg . Now the 338 and 50 cals were both different . It wasn't the reload that caused the issue , it is the brass that got stuck in the chambers . My mistake as far as i can tell now is that i should have cycled each casing through the chamber after it was deprimed and some what re sized .
 
Kazman....I run my .50 brass through in one push.....I use RCBS case lube, not the spray stuff, and a complete Lee set up for the 50.......not my choice of equipment but it came with the rifle. So far it seems to work just fine. Cases from an M2 will need some serious resizing and the way you are staging them will do it, but I would only be doing 3-4 steps not 25. Use lots of lube on the case walls but keep the shoulder clean, no lube and on your last step make sure that your shell holder is camming up hard on the base of your die, not just touching. Also check your case length on the cases that won't chamber just to be sure, most rifles I've checked have about .030 beyond what the max case length listed is, but if your cases measure more than .010 over max then you'll need to trim. You will find with the .50 that when sizing cases from an M2 that they will grow significantly in length after sizing.
 
c-fbmi said:
Kazman....I run my .50 brass through in one push.....I use RCBS case lube, not the spray stuff, and a complete Lee set up for the 50.......not my choice of equipment but it came with the rifle. So far it seems to work just fine. Cases from an M2 will need some serious resizing and the way you are staging them will do it, but I would only be doing 3-4 steps not 25. Use lots of lube on the case walls but keep the shoulder clean, no lube and on your last step make sure that your shell holder is camming up hard on the base of your die, not just touching. Also check your case length on the cases that won't chamber just to be sure, most rifles I've checked have about .030 beyond what the max case length listed is, but if your cases measure more than .010 over max then you'll need to trim. You will find with the .50 that when sizing cases from an M2 that they will grow significantly in length after sizing.
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I did everything that you mentioned , i measured the cases that chamber and ones that don't , it seems like the length is not the issue . I also made sure the shell holder is coming up hard to the die base , some still will not chamber though .
 
JRodko said:
OP sounds lucky to be alive. Moved a lot faster than I did when I first started loading.

Take your time, triple check, and be SAFE.
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Yep playing with a 50 is to me in the upper level of reloading!! But I may be wrong as I have zero 50 cal experience.

Oh well, at least the OP posted on here instead of being embarrassed and saying nothing. I'm sure any one of us who reload would be happy to help out with any further reloading problems via PM. At least I would, although I don't reload any of the cartridges in question. I mostly reload obsolete military cartridges.

When I started reloading I read a couple of books, watched several how to videos and things like that. Then I found another CGN member who was willing to mentor me through PM's. I've even decided to do the same for another CGN member who has decided to start the quest to become a reloader. I figured it was the least I can do since someone showed me.
 
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