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Well, I snuck off from work this afternoon to spend a couple hours at the range. I had great intentions of shooting a few handguns and rifles, but just like the last time out my AR was the only one that got any attention.

I messed around off the bench for most my time, some 50 yard and some 100 yard. I was about ready to pack up and leave, but then had the urge to do some off hand to round off the day(I need some practise off hand lol). I do enjoy the red dot however I am finding it difficult at 100m to know if I am aiming at the same spots, so pretty much just aim for the center of the target and go. Thinking I would enjoy some magnification, so a scope or ACOG may need to happen in the future.

What I can't get over is how little muzzle lift and recoil there is in such a light rifle. It just doesn't seem to move and is right there for the follow up. I've never had a muzzle beak before, so not sure if it is that or just the AR platform that allows for so much control.

I was shooting cheap MFS 55gr hp's, and went through 120 rounds with still no FTFs or malfunctions of ay sort.

My 100 yard off hand target(looks like a shot gun group lol)

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My 100 yard bench target

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This one was for fun. 20 rounds at 50 yards (cheating with bench again... lol)

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All and all there is no doubt in my mind that the rifle is capable of doing much more than my skill level allows at this point. I'm looking forward to working on that tough:)


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It was a great afternoon, despite the cold weather!


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Gunnerlove said:
Ditch the bench, work on prone, sitting, kneeling and standing.

You will never bring a bench to a gun fight (or SR competition).
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Haha, good advice and I fully plan on it. I wimped out with the cold though. My but and hands were cold enough sitting at the bench:)
What about shooting with a sling? Worth practise? I use latigo slings on my other rifles, for hunting and range, but not sure if the same configuration works on the AR.

I would love to get into service rifle or some kind of sport or course, but I think I have a lot to learn about that kind of shooting before I would be confident enough to try.

Thanks again for the advice.
 
DO NOT BE AFRAID to try any kind of shooting sport. If you are interested check out the Service Rifle forum and read as much as you can. Pay attention to information from members like Gunner Love, Longshot, Quiet, Tiriaq etc.

Contact you local Provincial Rifle Association or Gun clubs and see what is offered. Maybe watch a match or something if that helps.

Regardless everybody was a first time once and nobody is expected to do well the first couple of times. As long as you are safe and can follow directions for the CofF you will do fine. This first couple of times shooting you will likely be struggling to remember the course of fire but that will come. Once you know what you are supposed to be shooting you can concentrate on making good shots.

Don't miss out on the fun of Service style competitive shooting.
 
Nice shooting! Like you, m eyes ain't what they used to be so getting a bead on a target at 100yrd without magnification is like a Hail Mary. ACOG would be sweet but she's pricey. I was looking at the Buris AR332 or bigger AR 536 but I don't think those (or at least the latter) work well in SR challenges.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I would love to get into that type of shooting for sure. As life got busier and busier I seemed to give up more and more in the way of interest fo obligation so it would be great to get in with some good folks having some fun and learn this type of shooting. I will take a better look through the SR forum, maybe do a search for whats happening around central Alberta fo this type of thing and see what I can do. I was reading a bit about the courses TSE puts on in Calgary, and I would love to look at something like the carbine course. O f course, if anyone has any other suggestions I appreciate all and any input.
 
skinnadoor said:
What model Stag is that KO ? And how is the finnish on it?
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It's just the model 2R LE, pretty standard, but I love it. Fit and finish is excellent as far as I'm concerned, but it is my only experience with an AR so nothing really to compare with.
It is chambered in 223 wylde, which meant nothing to me until Steve from Armseast explained it to me. I really like how it shoots and have had no issues other than a mag issue at first which they sorted out from across the country in short order.
Very happy with my purchase for sure.

Section attacks?? Sure, why not. Just gotta ask google to find the step by step instructions on how to execute properly. It should be on the inter web, no? Lol
 
You've got a pretty solid carbine there. Cheers!
Stag makes some great ARs and AEI (now) has some of the best service you'll get.

KO said:
Section attacks?? Sure, why not. Just gotta ask google to find the step by step instructions on how to execute properly. It should be on the inter web, no? Lol
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Step one: Find the rockiest, s**ttiest, rutted, most waterlogged, ankle-twistin'-ist piece of terrain you can. Bonus points for an uphill grade and sand.

Step two: Christen the terrain. Remember the Axis of advance, Left of Arc, Right of Arc, etc. Make sure to use terms like 'copse* of trees', 'in the open' and 'Red Barn'. SOMETHING MUST be referenced as 'Red barn'. After naming something shout/ask "SEEN?!".
*Yes, I know you don't know what a copse of anything is. Nobody uses that word except for referencing terrain. That's the point, I think.

Step three: Carry less ammo than you need to fire, and lots more ammo in calibers you aren't firing. Pre-fog your glasses and make sure you left your knee and elbow pads at home. Those are for promotion season and either returning to supply or completely losing, that's it.

Step four: Yell "CONTACT" and fire two shots in the general direction from which you think you're taking effective fire.
Sprint a couple of steps and crash to the ground. Focus on bruising your elbows and knees.
PRO TIP: DOUBLE TAP, DASH AND DIVE ;)

Step five: From the prone, locate and communicate the threat. Shout out that you're going to make a frontal assault. I know that's open ground, but who are you? Irwin f**kin Rommel? A section attack is no place for applying tactics. Ever.
Next, sprint a few more paces then launch yourself into poison ivy, cows**t or a half-frozen puddle. Fight the temptation to squat, and go fully prone instead. I bet you used to think you can only get soaked once too.

Step six: Cover the next few hundred meters in this manner. When you're getting close to whatever you're assaulting fatally, err, I mean, frontally, somebody will yell "CHARLIE TEAM WILL ASSAULT THE TRENCH". This is no shock to anyone, not even the guys in the trench, except Charlie team themselves. If you happen to realize you are part of Charlie team, and the more junior member at that, crawl forward to the paraphet of the trench, under the covering fire supplied by the rest of the section, and prepare your grenade (or pretend grenade, if it's a pretend trench) and toss it into the trench.
PRO TIP from Frankie Two Fingers: Don't cover your helmet with your hands; It'll be fine. Cover your face with your hands instead, with the helmet between the pound of explosives and metal wire and your head and fingers.
After it goes off, or you pretend it went off (unless you're REALLY f**ked and imagined your pretend grenade is a dud...) you get up, switch to automatic and hose the trench. Likely, you'll only have six rounds remaining in your magazine, because you didn't put a fresh mag on... s**t like that is why you're on Charlie Team in the first place.

Step seven: Consolidate one bound past the trench. Call out your ammo remaining and casualties by team. It goes A, B, C, D, there Charlie. Take this time to realize you've crushed your iPhone, lost your dip and sprained something. Consider changing trades...
One team will go back to exploit the trench for intel, grab any goodies they can, and maybe even find Charlie's fingers.

Or you could just keep shooting off the bench, whack the occasional varmint or shoot some service rifle instead.

Either way, enjoy your Stag.
Happy shooting.
 
Craftsman 441 said:
You've got a pretty solid carbine there. Cheers!
Stag makes some great ARs and AEI (now) has some of the best service you'll get.



Step one: Find the rockiest, s**ttiest, rutted, most waterlogged, ankle-twistin'-ist piece of terrain you can. Bonus points for an uphill grade and sand.

Step two: Christen the terrain. Remember the Axis of advance, Left of Arc, Right of Arc, etc. Make sure to use terms like 'copse* of trees', 'in the open' and 'Red Barn'. SOMETHING MUST be referenced as 'Red barn'. After naming something shout/ask "SEEN?!".
*Yes, I know you don't know what a copse of anything is. Nobody uses that word except for referencing terrain. That's the point, I think.

Step three: Carry less ammo than you need to fire, and lots more ammo in calibers you aren't firing. Pre-fog your glasses and make sure you left your knee and elbow pads at home. Those are for promotion season and either returning to supply or completely losing, that's it.

Step four: Yell "CONTACT" and fire two shots in the general direction from which you think you're taking effective fire.
Sprint a couple of steps and crash to the ground. Focus on bruising your elbows and knees.
PRO TIP: DOUBLE TAP, DASH AND DIVE ;)

Step five: From the prone, locate and communicate the threat. Shout out that you're going to make a frontal assault. I know that's open ground, but who are you? Irwin f**kin Rommel? A section attack is no place for applying tactics. Ever.
Next, sprint a few more paces then launch yourself into poison ivy, cows**t or a half-frozen puddle. Fight the temptation to squat, and go fully prone instead. I bet you used to think you can only get soaked once too.

Step six: Cover the next few hundred meters in this manner. When you're getting close to whatever you're assaulting fatally, err, I mean, frontally, somebody will yell "CHARLIE TEAM WILL ASSAULT THE TRENCH". This is no shock to anyone, not even the guys in the trench, except Charlie team themselves. If you happen to realize you are part of Charlie team, and the more junior member at that, crawl forward to the paraphet of the trench, under the covering fire supplied by the rest of the section, and prepare your grenade (or pretend grenade, if it's a pretend trench) and toss it into the trench.
PRO TIP from Frankie Two Fingers: Don't cover your helmet with your hands; It'll be fine. Cover your face with your hands instead, with the helmet between the pound of explosives and metal wire and your head and fingers.
After it goes off, or you pretend it went off (unless you're REALLY f**ked and imagined your pretend grenade is a dud...) you get up, switch to automatic and hose the trench. Likely, you'll only have six rounds remaining in your magazine, because you didn't put a fresh mag on... s**t like that is why you're on Charlie Team in the first place.

Step seven: Consolidate one bound past the trench. Call out your ammo remaining and casualties by team. It goes A, B, C, D, there Charlie. Take this time to realize you've crushed your iPhone, lost your dip and sprained something. Consider changing trades...
One team will go back to exploit the trench for intel, grab any goodies they can, and maybe even find Charlie's fingers.

Or you could just keep shooting off the bench, whack the occasional varmint or shoot some service rifle instead.

Either way, enjoy your Stag.
Happy shooting.
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Hahaha! That is awesome! Here I thought I'd have to search for hours, maybe even minutes to find a good step by step instruction.
Thanks for the vivid explanation!
 
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