Reasoning behind 10 round handgun mags?

[Can-down]

What's the exception for a C-96?

 

[Ioncannon]

What's the exception for a C-96?

Was worried I was misremembering but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada#Laws_and_regulations

Magazine capacity

Additionally, there are a few exclusions on magazine regulations for certain specific firearms.

Magazines that were originally designed or manufactured as an integral part of the Mauser C96, including Model 1895, 1896, 1902, 1905, 1912, 1915, 1930, 1931, M711 and M712 and any variant or modified version of them

 

[Beretta Armorer]

I remember seeing in the prohib mag list regs an exemption on the snail drum, believe it had to be original and before a certain date of manufacture, but it is in there

 

[Dubby]

Not long ago we had recieved a shippment of Sig 226X5 comp 9mm with the original 17 round magazines by mistake. When I tried to register them CFC wouldnt do it till we got the 10 round mags in. They sat here waiting for them for over 2 months because Sig USA was out and had to order them from Germany. So yes we can order all handguns with 10round mags. You can buy them with the larger mag but that makes them a prohib.

Then were are all Walther PPQ .40's

 

[mandarb11]

.....because didnt you know that anything over 11 bullets now becomes dangerous!

 

[ATCme]

i HEARD that part of the reasoning of being capped at 10 rounds was to give police an extra advantage in any type of shootout situation as they have higher capacity mags...

Don't flame me! Just something I heard, I don't stand behind it at all but it was the only opinion I heard that shed any logical reasoning to a portion of our absolutely DUMB gun laws!

...end .2 cents here...

sadly i heard this to and from an rcmp no less

he seemed to think that all guns used in crime were stolen guns and therefore capped at 10 and 5 giving him an edge in shootouts

i had to walk away and do this behind a corner so as not get arrested for laughing at him

 

[DougPeach]

With a 12 shot magazine you're 20% more likely to shoot yourself or someone else. Isn't it obvious?!?

Well if you decide to shoot someone or yourself with a 12 shot magazine arent't you 120% more likely?

 

[L337]

Why the Walther? Have u looked at other guns? Like sig 226? Cz 75/85/shadows? Glocks? STI gp6? Plenty of nice semi. Personally I like cz and sigs and I am new as well

 

[promac]

I've come to the conclusion that, although non-sensical, hysteria & law legitimize & affirm a contrived & false premise that any gun or anything gun related is dangerous - fear mongering. While guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands, in the right hands, they are not......and that is as far as you can go with effective gun control. Anything beyond builds & perpetuates a culture of fear of guns & their owners - a societal institution for social re-engineering. It becomes dangerous, problematic and scary because we say so & affirm & legitimize it by performing arbitrary & non-sensical rituals to "control" & "regulate" it. Rituals become the basis for the formation of more rituals - ie we have to do this, because we do that, etc.

Wendy Cukier:

“Although it doesn’t directly address the problem of illegal handguns, the registry helps create a culture that believes guns are dangerous and owners must be held accountable.”

The reasoning behind mag limits is to create & legitimize fear with the law.

 

[WestIslandRifle]

Because they feel you are less dangerous with 10 rounds then you would with 14 or more in handgun and 6 plus with semi autos ITS A BUNCH OF BULLS**T same thing as you can have a gun with a 4.2 inch barrel and not a 4 inch once again ITS A BUNCH OF BULLS**T!!!!!!!!. it makes me wanna with how strick and stupid our firearm laws are

 

[safety first]

Because they feel you are less dangerous with 10 rounds then you would with 14 or more in handgun and 6 plus with semi autos ITS A BUNCH OF BULLS**T same thing as you can have a gun with a 4.2 inch barrel and not a 4 inch once again ITS A BUNCH OF BULLS**T!!!!!!!!. it makes me wanna with how strick and stupid our firearm laws are

Wow, there's alot of base level thinking in here.

There was alot of gun related massacre media coverage back when the law was made.

The majority of the public was fearful it could happen again.

The government took steps as to be seen to do "something" about it happening again.

This is how people get reelected. They did something about perceived safety. That is what the majority of the public approved of at the time. It's like the American patriot act for guns

So if anyone who commented in this thread was a elected person who wanted to get reelected again...

What measures would you have put forward to get reelected after the Montreral massacre?

Try explaining in a political debate why 30 rounds mags are needed to a fearful public.

Would you have talked about how all these gun rules are unfair, and we really need our 30round mags?

No, you would get your ass handed to you in a debate and you would lose the election. People were reeling from the media pumping the fear. Something had to be done. What other ideas would you suggest to appease the public?

See?

Geez you guys. Try being elected and being accountable to public voters sometime, then wonder why we are where we are.

Instead , all some people in here spout about is anger and cave man thinking. That's fair.


Instead try thinking about how we as a community can be better understood by the public for what we are. Not how the media wants to portray us. We need to control the story.

This is what the CSSA and CFA does. Please support our organizations to help us in a way that actually works.

Now, all the nutz will flame me, but again I will say ,"instead of fighting with a fellow gun owner, why not try actually helping the cause?"

Arguing with me won't help, so please don't bother, I really don't care about your hidden identity internet opinion. The country is the way it is, and because I have in the past worked in politics for politicians I have a different understanding of how things work in society.

Lastly I make a difference by telling people I am a hunter and target shooter, and not being ashamed by it. If people see that a guy like me is a gun owner, it goes against their perceptions that have been contrived by the media. I work in healthcare and am under 40 years old. I part of Canada's best shot at achieving gun owner respectability. This means I use firearms responsibly to hunt and target shoot and I am just like them. A citizen.

Someone they can relate to.

When you say you need a 30 round mag, that is unrelatable to regular non-gun people (the majority). Do you get that?

It would be interesting to hear why people need 30rd mags, esp from everyone who will now flame me. Wanting CCW is based on personal safety(necessary), wanting 30rd'ers is more based on freedom, fun, etc. necessary? It's a harder point to argue and still look rational.

I am not against 30rd mags personally, I am just making a point that some people esp on this site don't understand. Basically we're not the majority, that's how life works. Want to be the majority?, move to the states OR JOIN OUR NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS TO ACTUALLY HELP

Supporting the cons is a good start, but remember, they want to be reelected, so it's the public opinion you need to change. That starts with you.

We have momentum now and I am so glad we are growing as a community.

cheers to fellow enthusiasts

 

[MossbergBlaster]

Fixed that for you.


The reason for 10 rounds is:

The Kim Campbell government loathed and detested gun owners. End of explanation.

The CPC members in the crowd are suspiciously quiet on this fact. No one even acknowledged you..lol.

Hey, if you're not with Kim Campbell, you're an enemy of Canada

 

[Silveragent]

good post safety first.

 

[Can-down]

Safety First,
Some good points... but the whole need vs want argument is a slippery slope!
The fact is if the man(or my neighbor) trusts me with 10 he should trust me with 15,20,or 30.
The fools trust rivets more then their neighbors or good citizens.

Sure it's hard to win an election fighting for truth and common sense.....much easier to play to the "base levels"