Reccomendations?! Budget Reloads For 223 5R 1moa

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I picked up a 700 5r in 223rem. I'm wondering if anyone out there has had luck loading bulk bullets and achieving say 1moa accuracy. If anyone can recommend a budget reload (brass,primer,powder,bullet,seating depth) that would be great. For dies I was thinking lee collet neck die, forster benchrest seater and a redding body die for when the start to get snug in the chamber. I have been looking at bullets in the 15cent range.... Any advice is appreciated
 
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I don't get it. Why would you buy an expensive inherently accurate rifle and expensive precision reloading equipment and then try to save a dollar or two by buying the cheapest bulk components you can find? I would look for the components that would test the very finest accuracy possible out of this rig and that is very unlikely to include bulk bullets by anybody.
 
I'm with the above respondents. The 69gr SMK's are great in my testing. For slightly cheaper fodder, there are the 68gr HRN BTHP. There is also Berger and Lapua if you are feeling it might be worth that tiny extra bit of accuracy. It's your rifle so you can load and shoot what you want but I personally would NOT bother with 55gr FMJ anything. What a waste of time. Leave them for the spray and pray guns.
 
rick357 said:
I'm with the above respondents. The 69gr SMK's are great in my testing. For slightly cheaper fodder, there are the 68gr HRN BTHP. There is also Berger and Lapua if you are feeling it might be worth that tiny extra bit of accuracy. It's your rifle so you can load and shoot what you want but I personally would NOT bother with 55gr FMJ anything. What a waste of time. Leave them for the spray and pray guns.
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Rifle accuracy is mostly the barrel. You have a good one. It can discriminate between good and poor bullets.

Ammo accuracy is mostly the bullet. There are 3 classes of bullet:

Bulk FMJ. Good for making noise and holes ... somewhere.

Hunting bullets. Will group well.

Match grade. To deliver the full accuracy your rifle and ammo are capable of.

For short range shooting, the Sierra 69 and Hornady 68 work well. For beyond 200, where wind is an issue, the 75,77 and 80 match bullets rule.
 
You can buy bulk bullets like the Hornady 75 bthp for not very much (less than 30 cents per). I bought 500 pieces of 1F processed brass Remington brass at $0.10/piece. I will be doing load development this weekend hopefully.

I figure I will neck size the brass 3 or 4 times and then dump it. By not buying lapua brass I am saving money (I would have to reload it 25+ times to make it work.) and can get a nicer bullet.

I highly doubt the target will notice the difference between my cheap brass and lapua.

Powder is never super cheap and primers are always $0.03 to $0.05 it seems.
 
Thanks for the feed back. I'm leaning toward the Hornady 75gr match bullet. It seems the 1 in 9 twist should handle these... What about powder primer and brass. Thanks for the feedback
 
Ganderite said:
Rifle accuracy is mostly the barrel. You have a good one. It can discriminate between good and poor bullets.

Ammo accuracy is mostly the bullet. There are 3 classes of bullet:

Bulk FMJ. Good for making noise and holes ... somewhere.

Hunting bullets. Will group well.

Match grade. To deliver the full accuracy your rifle and ammo are capable of.

For short range shooting, the Sierra 69 and Hornady 68 work well. For beyond 200, where wind is an issue, the 75,77 and 80 match bullets rule.
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Ganderite I agree 110%, your post always show your experience and horse sense. You must be almost as smart, good looking and modest as I am. ;)

Rivardo, I have Remington .223 cases with as much as .009 or more neck thickness variations. And having a simple neck thickness gauge below is a very good way to sort your cases and not having to neck turn your brass. With one turn of the wrist I can sort my cases for my Savage .223 bolt action and the blasting ammo for my AR15 rifles. The gauge below will tell you a great deal about the quality of your cases and cull out the cases with excessive neck thickness variations.

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223 Rem + 223 AI Cartridge Guide
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/223rem/
 
Hrndy 75gr hpbt match
- 23.5 gr varget
- fed gm match s.r. primers
- hrndy, win brass ( no accuracy differences between the two brands)
- oal; rifle dependant

These shoot .25 moa @ 100m for me in my remmy 700, 20" ,1/9.
 
rosconow said:
Hrndy 75gr hpbt match
- 23.5 gr varget
- fed gm match s.r. primers
- hrndy, win brass ( no accuracy differences between the two brands)
- oal; rifle dependant

These shoot .25 moa @ 100m for me in my remmy 700, 20" ,1/9.
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I use these bullets in my 700 with 25 grains of Varget and an R-P case. I can shoot .75 moa with it. Tried the 75 AMAX but the 1:9 wont stabilize them.
 
What distance are you going to be shooting at? If you're only going to shoot at 100 yards or less you can shoot anything you want and with a little load development you should be able to do 1 moa. If you actually want to see what that rifle can do you will have to spend more on projectiles and be more careful with brass prep. That rifle should be able to shoot accurately out to 800 yards with a good 75-80gr projectile and a well developed load.
I'm not sure why you bought a 5R Milspec if you just want to shoot cheap ammo, I have a 5R Milspec in 300 Win mag and can't believe how accurate it is for a factory barrel.


Ryan.M.Anderson said:
You can buy bulk bullets like the Hornady 75 bthp for not very much (less than 30 cents per). I bought 500 pieces of 1F processed brass Remington brass at $0.10/piece. I will be doing load development this weekend hopefully.

I figure I will neck size the brass 3 or 4 times and then dump it. By not buying lapua brass I am saving money (I would have to reload it 25+ times to make it work.) and can get a nicer bullet.

I highly doubt the target will notice the difference between my cheap brass and lapua.

Powder is never super cheap and primers are always $0.03 to $0.05 it seems.
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You should be able to get more than 4 loadings on your brass as long as you don't load hot.
 
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