It does not matter..it’s 2025 not 2018 and it’s a prohib now.
Were these lowers ever made? Just curious.Be patient. New lowers are slowly being made in the US. They are extremely accurate reproductions of the Dutch lowers so I for one will replace my ugly Telko and Specialty Arms lowers. Will IRG import such a thing?
No other recently-made lowers will fit.
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Yes, I’m still curious if a retro lower was released in the US. You have an original AR-10? NiceAren’t they prohibited and any types like it?
Have one
Yes, a few new lowers have been made. (in the US) Not for commercial sale. These have been made to the exact dimensions of the originals and do not have a sear hole. It would be difficult to envision them as a commercial product since the engraving is as original.Were these lowers ever made? Just curious.
Yup, sold some Sudanese issued ones too. Fun gun. - danBack in the day, the American’s made a lower that worked with original Ar10’s
Canada got complete guns, America got parts kits, parts and accessories
Allen Lever of Lever Arms had a lot of them including some KLM security AR10’s
I am looking for any info on those KLM survival rifles. I spoke to a former lever arms guy who fondled them on arrival. A dealer in Surrey ended up with three of the four and attempted to sell them to an american dealer. At some point atf got them and apparently destroyed two and kept one for reference. Happened in late 1970s early 1980s. It seems that the guns were not allowed in the US because of the lower receiver.Back in the day, the American’s made a lower that worked with original Ar10’s
Canada got complete guns, America got parts kits, parts and accessories
Allen Lever of Lever Arms had a lot of them including some KLM security AR10’s
I expect the KLM AR10 lower receivers were identical to the Sudanese AR10, with the sear hole riveted shut and a modified selector switch installed. The selector markings were likely milled over to exclude "AUTO".I have an extra selector somewhere for Ar10
The auto cut in the selector was filled in and polished
The sear was left stock
So, I think the KLM guns probably had the same set up or left full military
After all, they were the State Airline, rules don’t apply , they were for security.
So, FA probably was part of the plan
More retarded government regulation. Sigh. It never ends. - danI expect the KLM AR10 lower receivers were identical to the Sudanese AR10, with the sear hole riveted shut and a modified selector switch installed. The selector markings were likely milled over to exclude "AUTO".
The AI factory documents say that the KLM rifles were semi automatic so that definitely means there was no sear installed. Beyond the absence of the sear, semiauto had a vague meaning back in 1958. Even the ATF was confused. For example...
The marketing of a semi auto AR10 was proposed by Armalite to the ATF and a sample rifle was sent for examination in the spring of 1958. The ATF determined that the sample rifle needed three tweaks before it was acceptable for sale in the US.
1. The rifle can not be called an AR10
2. An oversized and offset steel pin (sear block) must be installed above the selector
3. The rifle must not be able to use standard AR10 (military) magazines
So this is how the AR102 was born. Way less is know about the KLM airline survival rifles.
"complete" upper is a subjective term.I have one and thought that the whole gun is in prohibited class, including a separate upper , like the ar15 complete upper is
- 4 The upper receiver of any firearm referred to in item 87 of Part 1 of this schedule.
- 87The firearms of the designs commonly known as the M16, AR-10 and AR-15 rifles and the M4 carbine, and any variants or modified versions of them — other than one referred to in item 47, 49 or 50 of this Part — including the
- (z.058) Armalite AR-10A;
- (z.059) Armalite AR-10A2;
- (z.06) Armalite AR-10A4;
- (z.061) Armalite AR-10B;
- (z.062) Armalite AR-10 KLM;
- (z.063) Armalite AR-10 Magnum;
- (z.064) Armalite AR-10NM;
- (z.065) Armalite AR-10T;
- (z.066) Armalite AR-102 Sporter;
- (z.067) Armalite M4C Carbine;
- (z.068) Armalite M15;
- (z.069) Armalite M15A2;
- (z.07) Armalite M15A4;
- (z.071) Armalite M15A4 T;
- (z.072) Armalite M15 Pistol;
- (z.073) Armalite SPR Mod 1;
- (z.074) Armalite SPR Mod 2;
- (z.075) Armalite SPR Mod 2A;
- (z.076) Armalite AR-10 Pistol;