Recoil, SKS vs M305 Shorty

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I'm fully aware that 7.62 x 51 recoil energy is around 15-16 pounds and
7.62 x 39 is 7-8 pounds but I'd like to know what it feels like in real life
due to the fact that the M305 has a larger stock than a SKS which will
fit larger North American males better, I'm 6.2, 204 pounds, can do
3 sets of five strict chin ups and deadlift 300 pounds for five, so I'm
not skinny fat. Plus I'm not prepared to throw in the towel and join
the Metrosexual AR crowed with there 5.56, 3-4 pounds of recoil.

The reason for this question is I have to drive 2.5 - 3 hours to any of
the 3 areas I shoot on Crown Land, and I shoot a lot as a result but
I can only get away to these locations once every two months, it usually entails
staying overnight in a motel and shooting extensively for two consecutive
days. Sure in the Winter you have a heavy parka on but right now its
tee shirt and Black flie season.

Running my Remington 870 through a flat, 250 rounds, will give me a black
and blue shoulder for 5 days, not so with the SKS, how I'm gonna fare with
the M305 shorty? (this is going to be my substitute for a Dewat FAL)
 
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100 rounds and my shoulder is pretty tender, new rubber but stock from Marstar ($25 i think?) made a big difference. i found they have substantially more recoil than an SKS but i dont bruise like i do with the 870 and a flat of ammo.
 
Cody1771 said:
100 rounds and my shoulder is pretty tender, new rubber but stock from Marstar ($25 i think?) made a big difference. i found they have substantially more recoil than an SKS but i dont bruise like i do with the 870 and a flat of ammo.
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This sounds right to me based on my experience.

Never knew about these P.A.S.T shoulder pads, I will keep this in mind if I go the M305 route.
My Limbsaver allows my sks to kinda bounce of my shoulder
while allowing my nose to get hit by my thumb, Limbsaver is kinda like a trampoline, I spent $40 on this
to increase the length of pull of my SKS but at 6.2 I still need a additional inch.

Had a blast on the weekend with my Russian SKS hitting clay pigeons at 82 yards (verified with a rangefinder)
very consistantly and now I have a itch for this M305 and I'm trying to talk myself out of it and it isn't going
very well.

Guess I was hoping you guys would scare me of it and then I could close the door in my brain to this idea.
 
If you are having issues with recoil alot of that is using proper tecnique. Hit up youtube and look up some how to vids or if you have them the magpul carbine video has a really good segment on recoil managment. It translates to any firearm not just ARs.

Shawn
 
This is a good one:

[youtube]1b5s7_9lEqs[/youtube]

He forgot to mention that you what the firearm, regardless of type of action, to be tight in the shoulder with no play. If you are holding it lightly or with gaps it will bounch around and not transfer the energy to the gorund through your legs. Just like with a pistol, use the push pull grip. Strong hand pushes forward, weak hand pulls back

Think of recoil like electricity, it wants to go to ground. You want a clear, stable, path from the muzzle through your body out your feet to the ground. The more twists and turns it has to take or gaps it has to jump the harder it will feel, do wierd things and push you around. The straighter the path to the ground the better.

Shawn
 
You'll be fine with an M-14/M305, no problems at all. The recoil isn't really that much more than an SKS, it's more, but the larger butt on the stock helps to reduce the actual felt recoil. When I bought mine, I thought I'd have to retrofit a Limbsaver or get a muzzle brake...by the second range trip all such thoughts disappeared...and I'm a smaller/lighter guy than you.

More problematic is your 870...my suggestion would be for you to put a Limbsaver on it, if it doesn't already have one, and a Cheek-EZE cheekpiece (it's about 1/8 inch of rubber) really prevents any recoil pain on the cheek. If that's still more recoil than you'd like, then consider a different shotgun that has better recoil control. For instance, the Benelli Super Black Eagle has a massive buttpad, that's a big rubber thing, has a rubber cheek piece too, and a stock that actually collapses a tiny bit to absorb recoil impact, plus it's a semi auto, which absorbs some kick. I shot one with some 3" magnum slugs, and it was pain-free, I'd bet the 870 with such loads would be something else!
 
Jeepers you guys are helpful in this deparment.

My limited take so far is the Limbsaver acts as a shock absorber like your car suspension,
spreading the impact over time but it all hits the same area of your shoulder.

The P.A.S.T pad spreads the recoil over a 2-3 times the surface area of your body
but it enables you to control the weapon in a more meaningful way due to it
not being as spongey as the Limbsaver.

This has been very helpful and I thank you all for your input, based on this
knowledge I can shoot a M305 and enjoy myself while still hitting stuff.

I have yet to study the video's but I will later tonight.
 
Your welcome,

But watch the video and do some research on proper stance and recoil mitigation before you spend money. You might find it is good without needing to buy anything.

Shawn
 
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