Recommend a BUDGET pistol for my girlfriend.

Find her a good used Ruger mark II or Mark III, shoud be able to pick up one at your set price at EE. Ammos are damn cheap. Norinco Woodsman is not a bad gun but the quality of mags are not as great, you may need to buy some more mag.

Trigun
 
Ellwood Epps carries the Hi-Point JCP semi auto for $249.00. Either .40 or .45. Not sure about the recoil for her though as I have never shot it. I just purchased a Hi-Point carbine and was pleasantly surprised with the quality although it is definitely not a beauty contest winner.
I am no rookie to shooting and I like well built firearms and companies that stand behind their products, Hi-Point has my confidence.
 
Ellwood Epps carries the Hi-Point JCP semi auto for $249.00. Either .40 or .45. Not sure about the recoil for her though as I have never shot it. I just purchased a Hi-Point carbine and was pleasantly surprised with the quality although it is definitely not a beauty contest winner.
I am no rookie to shooting and I like well built firearms and companies that stand behind their products, Hi-Point has my confidence.

Since you recommend them so highly could I ask how many Hi-point handguns you own and how long have you had your Hi-point carbine?


John
 
Save your money and buy her a M&P, with the three different sized back staps you will find one she really likes. My wife is small and loves hers. As I stated the grip can be changed to fit her, and the trigger is pretty good. Should be able to find a used one for a decent price.
 
you need to rethink this, you have several firearms sell one you don't need increase your budget and buy your lovely girlfriend a pistol or revolver she loves shooting at the range, really she deserves better than what you are proposing.
 
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If she doesn't shoot much, a used revolver would do just fine. Beware auto pistols for women. I was in a class where half the women had difficulty racking the slide back to load!
One or two couldn't manage it at all (these were 9mm and 45 pistols).
 
Look for a a used .38 revolver.

x3....I bought my wife a nice S&W Model 10 in .38 Spl on the EE for $250.00. Added a hogue grip $25.00 and a few HKS speedloaders from Tradeex ($5.00 each with case). Still under $300.00 and she likes it a lot more than my semi-autos. It only took her a few days at the range to get used to the speedloaders and be just about as fast reloading as an semi-auto. Nice narrow grips and not to heavy for her.....Just a thought
 
Well I'd like to thank everyone for their input in this, and have a lot to think about. I think my best bet is to keep an eye on the EE for something of better quality and better suited to my requirements. As for wheel-guns, I've always wanted to give them a go.. maybe this would be a good way to try em out too. And as for selling my own guns, that's always an option, but I only have 2 guns, one shotgun one rifle (there's no redundancy).
 
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Bombtrack:

I've recently spoken with a few friends who work shiftwork as well and would like to be able to have a firearm at home for their wives/girlfriends to be able to use for personal defence in their absence. That being said, two of the issues that generally come up are: 1) would the loved one in question be able to access/load the firearm quickly enough under duress, and 2) what if the loved one in question were to be disarmed in a scuffle and wind up on the business end of a loaded firearm in the hands of a criminal?

One of the options that I have reccomended to friends of mine is to purchase a blank handgun chambered for 9MM P.A.K ammo (such as the ones Zoraki produces). They very closely resemble a firearm in appearance and function, would probably make enough noise in a confined space to scare off an attacker. Also. since they are not considered firearms, they can be left loaded in a drawer, unlocked, and readily accessible. Although they wont cause any harm, it would certainly cause enough noise to wake the neighbours into calling the authorities.



*Personally, I'd rather have the real thing in a loved ones hand (especially my wifes because I know she wouldnt hesitate), however, I strongly believe that in most cases the danger of someone hesitant and getting disarmed is quite real, which is why I dont generally reccomend a real firearm for home defense.
 
You will pay more on EE than buying a new Norc.

LOL so funny and so true.

50% of the items on EE are more expensive than what it would cost to buy it new, and the rest you save next to nothing (10%-15%) even if the gun have fired 2k+ rounds.

In the US, a used gun is worth like 40% less than a new one, even when in excellent condition.

Supply and demand I guess.
 
KnightShift that's an interesting suggestion but like you I'd prefer the real thing.

You will pay more on EE than buying a new Norc.

LOL so funny and so true.

50% of the items on EE are more expensive than what it would cost to buy it new, and the rest you save next to nothing (10%-15%) even if the gun have fired 2k+ rounds.

In the US, a used gun is worth like 40% less than a new one, even when in excellent condition.

Supply and demand I guess.

I could also grab a better model norc off the EE. I'm not discounting Norinco quality, I've got a Norinco CQ (M4) and am very happy with it. I've bought off the EE before and I know some of the prices are out to lunch but some are great.
 
Bombtrack:

I've recently spoken with a few friends who work shiftwork as well and would like to be able to have a firearm at home for their wives/girlfriends to be able to use for personal defence in their absence. That being said, two of the issues that generally come up are: 1) would the loved one in question be able to access/load the firearm quickly enough under duress, and 2) what if the loved one in question were to be disarmed in a scuffle and wind up on the business end of a loaded firearm in the hands of a criminal?

One of the options that I have reccomended to friends of mine is to purchase a blank handgun chambered for 9MM P.A.K ammo (such as the ones Zoraki produces). They very closely resemble a firearm in appearance and function, would probably make enough noise in a confined space to scare off an attacker. Also. since they are not considered firearms, they can be left loaded in a drawer, unlocked, and readily accessible. Although they wont cause any harm, it would certainly cause enough noise to wake the neighbours into calling the authorities.



*Personally, I'd rather have the real thing in a loved ones hand (especially my wifes because I know she wouldnt hesitate), however, I strongly believe that in most cases the danger of someone hesitant and getting disarmed is quite real, which is why I dont generally reccomend a real firearm for home defense.

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Bombtrack,
I think a 9mm would be a good choice. Sig clones from Norinco can be had for within your budget. But as I say to any one looking for a 'budget' pistol, save a few more $ and get a Glock. If you keep a close eye on the EE they pop up in the $500 range from time to time.
 
My mother had very small hands and also was arthritic for many years.

When I was out on the road on a speaking tour or out of the country at a conference, I left her the one she liked: Smith & Wesson Model 10 in .38S&W.

No muss, no fuss, no bother and is somebody comes through the wndow at 3 in the morning (has happened to me: I am 3 houses from the cop-shop but they don`t come untl the next day)...... there are no problems with fiddling magazines into place, pulling back slides, hoping the &?%$ thing doesn`t JAM (high stress + weak hands = disaster in the making).

A revolver is rock-bottom RELIABLE.

My ladyfriend in The Big City wants to learn to shoot. She also is physically small. She doesn`t know it yet, but she`s learning on the same 1940 Smith with mild handloads.

She is valuable enough to learn on something that she can run when she`s scared out of her mind in the middle of the night. MUCH better than trying to learn something than I think might be right, just as long as it`s cheap. MY lady is priceless: she is worth the MOST reliable gun that she can use and that I can find.... and that`s it.

Think on it, please.

BTW, gun like that is worth 300 tops: they might be historic, but nobody wants a .38S&W: not enough macho. I`m not gonna stand in front of one, not in the hands of a scared woman, anyway.
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Mostly agree with above post, although I recommended a Norkie 1911 previously. In fact for exactly the same reasons stated, I gave my daughter and son-in-law in the states, a pair of Model 65s.

Only question is where can one get a Model 10 for 300 bucks. I would really love to have one.
 
The TT-33 or the Norc clone in 9mm is not too heavy and has a smaller grip than most.

But - pulling the slide back to load it is a #####. If the hammer is cocked first, the slide is easier than most to rack.
 
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