Recommendation for Improvements on NEA rifles & Company.
- Thread starter Leibermuster
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The point of this thread was not to have you guys discuss the thread but make points for NEA to improve and discuss real problem with the product line.
This thread has been official derailed with mods doing nothing.
CGN should take notes of how M4carbine.net handles these situation at least there is some balance there in many respects despite some obvious bias from some mods.
It's obvious that NEA will end up as the "Oly" of Canada at this rate or even worse, hell there rifles have far less problems and they work out of the box.
If you don't have any suggestion and can not put them in point form then please stop posting in this thread.
This thread has been official derailed with mods doing nothing.
CGN should take notes of how M4carbine.net handles these situation at least there is some balance there in many respects despite some obvious bias from some mods.
It's obvious that NEA will end up as the "Oly" of Canada at this rate or even worse, hell there rifles have far less problems and they work out of the box.
If you don't have any suggestion and can not put them in point form then please stop posting in this thread.
M'y suggestion is to increase price by 2-300$ and uprgrade QC and finish. At 1300$ à Canadian made rifle with very good finish and perfect QC is a deal. QC is the key, if à compagny ship lemon, even if 99% of the others rifles are top notch, on forums peoples Will only talk about "the" rifle that was a lemon.
We pay more than that for us made rifle.....I think that we Canadians are very hard with them. They are new in AR market. We should encourage them to refine their product.
NEA should contine with their excellent customers service.
We pay more than that for us made rifle.....I think that we Canadians are very hard with them. They are new in AR market. We should encourage them to refine their product.
NEA should contine with their excellent customers service.
Somewhere here there is an irony. A thread about how to improve NEA has degraded into a thread about how to improve this thread. Maybe you should take some of the advice you were so eager to mete out?
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
And why are you buying such a cheap black rifle Leibermeister?
Wasn't it you that pulled that elitist crap saying that these cheap rifles are letting too many ignorant noobs, and lower classed gun owners take part in this sacred sport?
You deserve what you got here.
And why are you buying such a cheap black rifle Leibermeister?
Wasn't it you that pulled that elitist crap saying that these cheap rifles are letting too many ignorant noobs, and lower classed gun owners take part in this sacred sport?
You deserve what you got here.
Take the free USP avatar down off your profile it's insulting, and also a special thanks for derailing the thread further to Suputiin and you mlehtovaara.
If you want to have a fight about it take it to PM, you go to silverdale right? You can argue with me there anytime, and set me straight...
Instead of making this thread productive many on here just derail it further, my only conclusion is that Shill gate continues...
1. No shilling.
2. MILSPEC PARTS to used where ever applicable, example Buffer tube,BCG, etc etc...
my advice is to ship them with a better grip standard, and options for match quality triggers.
my advice to NEA is to keep up the great customer service,
and keep makeing great rifles like the one I got and YES it did come with the military heavy trigger, took them less then a day to get nice ones in the mail cause i simply called them instead of complaining on cgn @2am.
about 1500 rounds later, swapping the trigger and a couple turns on the allan wrench are all the maintenance it needed. at about 1400 rounds I had to clean the firing pin, but this was my fault, I got tonnes of CLP on it.
so my advice there, is to SHIP YOUR GUNS WITH A MANUAL AND BROCHURE
so people know the basic dis assembly and such, and have a # to call directly instead of going to the internet first.
my advice to NEA is to keep up the great customer service,
and keep makeing great rifles like the one I got and YES it did come with the military heavy trigger, took them less then a day to get nice ones in the mail cause i simply called them instead of complaining on cgn @2am.
about 1500 rounds later, swapping the trigger and a couple turns on the allan wrench are all the maintenance it needed. at about 1400 rounds I had to clean the firing pin, but this was my fault, I got tonnes of CLP on it.
so my advice there, is to SHIP YOUR GUNS WITH A MANUAL AND BROCHURE
so people know the basic dis assembly and such, and have a # to call directly instead of going to the internet first.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
If you want to have a fight about it take it to PM, you go to silverdale right? You can argue with me there anytime, and set me straight...
Nothing to argue about.
I said my piece, and those that read your thread know your feelings on the subject.
As far as suggesting that I want to fight, or argue about it, and asking about me going to Silverdale, I am not sure if that was a threat or not but yeah, I go to Silverdale.
As far as derailing the thread goes.........This is CGN. Welcome!
In terms of proffesionalism, and whatnot that you're speaking of, shouldnt you have left NEA to open this thread themselves? Seems if they wanted someone elses opinion on how to improve, they would have asked.
If one is not a fan of the product. Do not buy it. Telling someone how to run their business without proper oversight of everything from R+D straight though overhead to customer service is a slap in the face, regardless of the product or reputation. It's like telling Vangoh how to paint. Stay in your lanes.
My only un-solicited advice to NEA would be keep refining your product to a point where price and quality are both meeting at an acceptable standard, maintain solid customer service, and dont pay no mind to interweb ventings of people who probably wont even buy your product, based on the opinion from " Joe from the internet".
* I do not own one, nor am i assoc with nea at all. Just seems like you're asking for a bashing session, without anyone allowed to play devils advocate. If you are of the opinion, as you stated there are "serious problems with the product line" Please move on to another manufacturer, and allow one of the only national producers of ARs to follow through with their business model. Regardless of wether or not you agree with it.
They are a reasonably new company. Only time will tell if the product will sustain itself.
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If one is not a fan of the product. Do not buy it. Telling someone how to run their business without proper oversight of everything from R+D straight though overhead to customer service is a slap in the face, regardless of the product or reputation. It's like telling Vangoh how to paint. Stay in your lanes.
My only un-solicited advice to NEA would be keep refining your product to a point where price and quality are both meeting at an acceptable standard, maintain solid customer service, and dont pay no mind to interweb ventings of people who probably wont even buy your product, based on the opinion from " Joe from the internet".
* I do not own one, nor am i assoc with nea at all. Just seems like you're asking for a bashing session, without anyone allowed to play devils advocate. If you are of the opinion, as you stated there are "serious problems with the product line" Please move on to another manufacturer, and allow one of the only national producers of ARs to follow through with their business model. Regardless of wether or not you agree with it.
They are a reasonably new company. Only time will tell if the product will sustain itself.
//OUT
Nice!! Hammered it home.... the rants are pretty funny!!!
For me its a simple NEVER EVER.
NEA has clearly shown its true colours to everyone.
Not registered with the Canadian Better Business Bureaus either.....wonder why?? Don't want ratings they cannot control to cater their sales needs?
It's not just QC. The most important part is they need to develop a ROBUST MACHINING PROCESS. QC issue is more critical for mass production, in terms of several thousands of part per day. But if your Machining process is robust enough, you only make scraps, and QC would not help because it only prevent NG part flows to the market.
As I said before, just make a plain M4. Use the basic front hand guard. Make everything back to basic. Once everything (including production rate and quality) get stablize, then start making improvement like the railed hand guard. Just my 2 cents.
(Also please stop doing Lock, Moved & Deleted here please).
QC definitely needs improvement if it hasn't been done already.
My PDW had some issues that really should have been caught, ie non-loctited gas block causing it to come loose, ####ty trigger disconnector that was causing F/A fire.
The rifle is good now due to the ease of warranty service, so props to them for that. But truthfully, I would have liked a nice working gun out of the box rather than a nice working gun after weeks of trouble shoot/parts being exchanged.
I don't have a huge problem with the mechanical finish of the gun, it is better over all compared to my Norc CQ. The grey is ok. Gives it a unique look, though I could see it being an aesthetic issue to some who are mix-matching uppers and lowers.
I do agree that NEA needs to stay out of ####storms on the forums. I get that there is a lot of pride at stake, but in my experience, the people talking the most #### are the ones with the most to lose.
My PDW had some issues that really should have been caught, ie non-loctited gas block causing it to come loose, ####ty trigger disconnector that was causing F/A fire.
The rifle is good now due to the ease of warranty service, so props to them for that. But truthfully, I would have liked a nice working gun out of the box rather than a nice working gun after weeks of trouble shoot/parts being exchanged.
I don't have a huge problem with the mechanical finish of the gun, it is better over all compared to my Norc CQ. The grey is ok. Gives it a unique look, though I could see it being an aesthetic issue to some who are mix-matching uppers and lowers.
I do agree that NEA needs to stay out of ####storms on the forums. I get that there is a lot of pride at stake, but in my experience, the people talking the most #### are the ones with the most to lose.
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