Recommendations for a 375 H&H?

try to find a good used Brno 602. They have a little higher quality of trigger springs and parts than the newer cz 550 magnums. Their stocks are a little more meaty as well. If you are interested in going to the next level I have one in .378 Wby. that is sitting in the safe that I would be willing to part with.
 
Thank you, I like the looks of this - synthetic is more practical for me. Time to look into some reviews.
SHELL SHUCKER said:
I'm kinda likin' the Vanguard Synthetic .375 H&H as far as a good bang for the buck rifle. Not too hefty to pack around & quality made with accuracy to spare. It be nice to have one of these in deluxe configuration w/walnut stock,blued & polished metal.
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I've had H&H's in the RSM and a couple of Brno's, and as I sold each one off I couldn't help but think "Wow, if this were only a .458..." They are nice guns, accurate and capable, and in the case of the RSM quite beautiful, but they are PIGS! Way too heavy for the .375 bullet at standard velocities IMHO. I loved my old Sako AV Hunter in that chambering, and can't explain why I don't still have it. An acquaintance's Sako Kodiak was nice too, in a sort of all-business no-nonsense kind of way. The new Winchester Alaskan looks great, but I've never held or even seen one. My Blaser R93 with its H&H barrel is currently the apple of my eye, even without CRF. The Rem700...meh...

But now? If I can somehow justify owning another, even after selling most of my guns recently...and I am very adept at lying to myself, make no mistake :)...I don't see how to resist the Vanguard S2 that just came out. Prophet River shows it in their flyer ad this month. The Vanguards are fantastic rifles, with great triggers and great accuracy, right out of the box. As the poster above mentioned, it would be irresistible in the Deluxe version, but even the standard matte-finish/synthetic gun is very tempting.
 
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quote `` I loved my old Sako AV Hunter in that chambering``

I had one of those, it was very light for a .375, it beat the snot out of me. It was great for carrying. I now have a .375 based on a Sako-FN Mauser, it weighs about 9 lbs and is comfortable for me. Stock fit really affects recoil for me.
 
buckbrush said:
quote `` I loved my old Sako AV Hunter in that chambering``

I had one of those, it was very light for a .375, it beat the snot out of me. It was great for carrying. I now have a .375 based on a Sako-FN Mauser, it weighs about 9 lbs and is comfortable for me. Stock fit really affects recoil for me.
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That's true for everyone, and all rifles. I have long arms and neck, and that Sako fit me like a glove...I could shoot it all day. On the other hand, I had a Ruger #1, one of my favourite rifle models, chambered in the H&H and I simply had to get rid of it. For me, it was almost unshootable. It pounded my cheek mercilessly, didn't sit right in my shoulder, and generally made me miserable. It was like having a killer-hot girlfriend who turned out to be an insufferable #####! :)
 
jjohnwm said:
That's true for everyone, and all rifles. I have long arms and neck, and that Sako fit me like a glove...I could shoot it all day. On the other hand, I had a Ruger #1, one of my favourite rifle models, chambered in the H&H and I simply had to get rid of it. For me, it was almost unshootable. It pounded my cheek mercilessly, didn't sit right in my shoulder, and generally made me miserable. It was like having a killer-hot girlfriend who turned out to be an insufferable #####! :)
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I loved my No.1-H in .375 H&H... fit nicely, shouldered nicely, and was not unkind during the recoil cycle.
 
hoytcanon said:
I loved my No.1-H in .375 H&H... fit nicely, shouldered nicely, and was not unkind during the recoil cycle.
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Lol, my 15 year old daughter likes shooting my 375 Weatherby Magnum in a Ruger No.1 -T.
Not judging, just saying.
Referring to the fellow who said it was unmerciful of course.
 
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I was referring to those killer-hot #####es I alluded to earlier! :)

I'm not normally recoil sensitive, but something about the way the #1 fits makes it very difficult for me to shoot comfortably, 15-year-old girls notwithstanding. I have an 8-pound .458Mag that is way easier to shoot (for me) than that .375H&H #1 was.
 
jjohnwm said:
I was referring to those killer-hot #####es I alluded to earlier! :)

I'm not normally recoil sensitive, but something about the way the #1 fits makes it very difficult for me to shoot comfortably, 15-year-old girls notwithstanding. I have an 8-pound .458Mag that is way easier to shoot (for me) than that .375H&H #1 was.
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Fessing up here, she's similar to Anna Nicole Smith with lots of muscles. And the rifle does have a recoil management system; one of those mercury jobs with a fat soft rubber buttpad. Don't know much about it, was already installed when I bought it.
But she does prefer it to the mostly cut-down milsurps that live in my cabinet. My 9.3 x 57 loaded hot is more of a handful to shoot than my 375 WM.
 
Dogleg said:
I by-passed the RSM because of weight and feel too. After going through a few 10 ish pounders (that were featherweights compared to the RSMs I tried) I've arrived at a 8 1/2 pounds scoped M70 and will likely stay there. It doesn't have to weigh more than that, and handles like sporter should.
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The RSM does better with a bigger hole in the barrel than .375". But the added weight makes an already gentle chambering into a real pussycat.
 
SuperCub said:
x2! ...... I suggest to the OP that he not buy a Browning A-Bolt in 375Magnum. I owned one several yrs ago and it was the hardest 375 to shoot I've ever owned. The butt pad foot print was actually smaller than my A-Bolt 22/250 and quite a bit smaller than a std M700. While I don't like the weight of a BRNO in a 375 I also know that a proper stock helps a lot when shooting a rifle with excessive recoil.

Here's a pic I trot out on these threads. Lower (hard as rock) pad off an ABolt 375, Middle std Rem 700 and the top pad went on my 375CT. 1pic = 1000 words! :)

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I don't know why stock design doesn't put more emphasis on butt surface area, especially on lighter rifles. The new FN Winchester Model 70 Safari stocks are wider and longer at the butt than the Super Grade stocks. They are generously proportioned, ergonomic, and seem to soak up recoil very well. Shooting the 9 pound .375 H&H is pleasurable. I wish McMillan would produce that stock in the aftermarket. It's an excellent design.

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Yep...and at least that part of stock design, i.e. surface area, or "footprint" of the recoil pad, makes perfect logical sense. You can look at a stock, compare the size of the footprint, and know roughly how it might compare to an otherwise-identical stock but with a smaller or larger print.

What drives me nuts is the crazy-ass voodoo that seems to accompany other aspects of stock fit. A knowledgeable shooter can look at and handle a stock, and can then make some reasonable assumptions and predictions about how it will feel when in use...and then when you try it out, it behaves completely opposite to those guesses! I have completely given up! The best I seem to be able to come up with is this: If the stock is ugly to my eye, it'll probably fit me well and reduce recoil to a feather-light caress (insert Weatherby-style Monte Carlo design here). If the stock looks good and makes me smile when I see it...it will hurt when I shoot it (Ruger #1, among others). To me, the stock fit and design is far more important than rifle weight. The relationship of weight to recoil is a simple mathematical one, easily calculated, and the numbers accurately compare total recoil energy and velocity. Felt recoil is another thing...I don't give a crap what the numbers say, I want to know what my shoulder and my cheekbones say...and nobody, including me, seems to be able to forecast that with any accuracy.

I will, of course, at least listen to any learned opinions about how this or that stock will fit me...but I won't believe any of'em. I gots to try it out!
 
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