Recommendations for an Annealer
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You control the time to heat and the cool time between heat on a board.
Plus you can just lift the thing off the brass you are cooking as it is hand held. I have a bunch of 303 brit brass that is all mixed head stamp, and I set the timer to the longest cook time (by brass thickness) and just lift of the annealer when I get the preferred glow. I dim the lights down a bit in the room I do this in, and find this works great.
I don't have a propane annealer, but watched many a video on them, and there is still the fiddle with every case type practice to get things working just right.
How do I know that this is working, well my groupings are telling me I'm doing something right. Is is just the annealer, probably not, but a combination of things. Until things fall apart with my group size, there is no reason to chase why its all working together.
If you have time to watch some of the videos of Cortina over annealing brass and the results that he saw. I think overall we put too much emphasis on over annealing and are afraid to run with any set up because of this.
Beltfed, truthfully I just googled the one gonggo or something along those lines.
The lube toob came up and having watched someone use an induction tool to remove frozen bolts of a truck cab I clicked on it .
A buddy has built a furnace (knife heat treating) using a version of the induction heat coil and a PID ....
Me, I like to fix things till they break, so I keep it simple and this appears pretty simple.
Short answer is I do not need to anneal for the amount of reloading I do and posted this to offer some ideas to further those who are looking for ideas.
Btw, most of the items in the clip are available on that company that delivers and starts with the letter "A" and not a site sponsor
I'm sure if you go this route and share your findings others will be interested.
Regards,
Rob
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Okay. I can readily see how the controller works, my question was more about how the user chooses his settings.
I gather frequency and power outputs are fixed, and you are just setting cycle times. The user employs his own judgement, along with tools like Templaq, watching for glow, etc., like with torch based systems.
Yes, by trial and error. I just look for the glow. When you have the lights dimmed you can see distinct glow, from faint, or hot. I have watched numerous videos on the process, and over annealing, so I'm not worried too much of over annealing. The cases pretty much melt when you go too far for too long. Yes I had to try it out to see it.
I usually try and set it a bit higher when first setting it up, and then adjust down as required to get things just right. I can always lift off the annealer if I'm too long on the time and it looks done. Once I have times, its all just recorded. I have made a few different coils for the different size brass and have it all labelled. I found 10 ga wire works niceley in mine.
I have annealed several hundred per wire now, and not worried about having to replace them any time soon. He has a second vid out with extra tips after 1 year use, so that helps as well.
Hi guys,
I'm using the Fluxeon Annie Induction Annealer for about 7 years now and it is quite nice. If you are doing a lot of cases, it's important to have cooling system for the coil. With this system, the water is flowing in the coil and it doesn't heat up. Also, by using the foot pedal, everything is quite fast and you can adjust precisely the timer for the right temperature depending of your brass. Here is a picture of my setup (it was taken in 2018.., but I'm doing the exact same thing).
I was able to buy it directly from the USA without any issue
https://fluxeon.com/product/annie-induction-annealer/
I'm using the Fluxeon Annie Induction Annealer for about 7 years now and it is quite nice. If you are doing a lot of cases, it's important to have cooling system for the coil. With this system, the water is flowing in the coil and it doesn't heat up. Also, by using the foot pedal, everything is quite fast and you can adjust precisely the timer for the right temperature depending of your brass. Here is a picture of my setup (it was taken in 2018.., but I'm doing the exact same thing).
I was able to buy it directly from the USA without any issue
https://fluxeon.com/product/annie-induction-annealer/
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Looks like a great machine, for the price, and made even better with it's abilities in the case prep department.
I like that the, included, 60" hose allows for use of larger propane bottle.
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Buy the AMP Annealer you will not regret it. I did about 1000 rounds when I borrowed a buddies machine, like it so much I bought it from him and did another 5000 or so. It is fast and consistent. Mine is the older version which can be up graded but not sure I see a need to do it. I have tried molten salt and the glow in the dark method, neither hold a candle to a AMP
I ordered mine on the 7th (a Sunday), and received it Friday that same week (the 12th).
I have only powered it up but haven't run brass through it yet.
It is quite compact and appears really well built.
One thing that I glossed over was the fact a power adapter doesn't come with it.
Luckily, I had an old laptop power adapter / transformer kicking around that works perfect.
I'm planning on running a pile of brass through it this weekend.
Well, let us know how it goes. I've just ordered one as I seem to be in love with annealing these days. I just ordered one, hopefully I find a charge cord around. Like most of us these days I've got a box of charge cords I don't even know what is for anymore!
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I read up a bit on anealers a couple years ago and figured I should build one. Induction seemed like a good way to go compared to having an open flame at my messy reloading bench. I put everything into an old PC case and use an Arduino to control it. The biggest expense was the power supply at about $140 or so, but I'm only into it for about $300 total. Has a trap door to drop the cases out the bottom and all I have to do is drop another into the coil. Snipershide has a huge thread with lots of guys that have built similar ones, lots of info there.
Kristian
Kristian
I have one - works great!
I use tempilaq on the first few cases to get the flame/height settings just right, then have at it! Most of my cases are set 45-55, which allows two full turns on each piece of brass for consistency.
I also took old brass and cut to make caliber specific sleeves to set the flame at the proper height for each cartridge - less set up fuss this way.
seems to give real nice results on the brass - between annealing and a mandrel, seating pressure is very consistent
I havent used the other mentioned annealers, so my experience is limited. But this gets a 9.9/10 from me!
I use an AMP annealer, the results for me are astoundingly consistent from day to day, very easy to use and fool proof.
No flame, no setting timers, no template, no dark rooms...all I gots to do is push a button!
I anneal every reload and after the second time of annealing and reloading my Base to shoulder are within .0005 of each other on finished rounds.
YMMV, for me the AMP is a reloading room must have.
No flame, no setting timers, no template, no dark rooms...all I gots to do is push a button!
I anneal every reload and after the second time of annealing and reloading my Base to shoulder are within .0005 of each other on finished rounds.
YMMV, for me the AMP is a reloading room must have.
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