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Howdy folks! I am thinking of putting a red dot scope on my pump 30-30. Has anyone had any experience with red dots on a RIFLE. I understand some have used them on a shotgun or pistol. I would like to hear from anyone who has used a red dot for hunting with a rifle.

Many thanks in advance.
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Gary
 
Aimpoint Micro H-1 would, to me, be ideal.

Except for an M4s on my Colt, the only RDS's I have are a mix of Micro T-1's and H-1's.
 
The only problem that I have with the aimpoints is the 4moa dot. Same with the micro. That's fine for in close quick shooting, but won't cut it for any attempts at quasi accuracy work. I was looking at one to put on a Beretta storm and the aimpoint or the Zeiss were both contenders until I saw the size of the dots. Looks like I'll be getting one of the new small Eotech's instead. I love the reticle on my Eotech 553. 1 moa dot in the middle with the 65 moa outer ring. Best of both worlds. Really wanted a micro, but not with 4moa max accuracy at 100 yards. Ticks me off, because I think the micro would rock on the Beretta.
 
I have a T1 micro on my USC and I can easily hit a man sized target out to 200 yards.

the 3.4 MOA dot (referred to as 4) is very fine, and does work well for accuracy work, if you actually have experience with them.


Remember, an AR15 front sight post appears to be about 11 or 12 moa ;)

Just because the dot is a 4moa dot, doesn't mean that your rifle will automatically start shooting 4moa. If your rifle does 1moa, then you can still shoot 1moa, you just need to be consistent with where you place the dot.

The EOTech is not going to make you any more accurate a shooter, if you cant consistently place the dot on the target.


just sayin' :D
 
So....I am still not sure if I have an answer. Will a red dot function well enough to use on a 30-30 pump out to 200 yards for deer hunting?
 
200 yards with a 4 MOA dot, you do the math! It's going to cover a 4+inch area on the deer. The CompM4's have a 2MOA dot though.
 
Hoser99 said:
So....I am still not sure if I have an answer. Will a red dot function well enough to use on a 30-30 pump out to 200 yards for deer hunting?
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If you're comfortable with irons at that distance, the Aimpoint Micro will make it easier to make consistent and accurate hits than with just irons. So definitely yes.

It is more of a closer-use optic, but lots of guys get good results at further distances. These are, of course, skilled and proficient shooters.


If I was going to get a camp or guide gun, I'd definitely put a Micro on it.
 
I've been using a ONE-V red dot on my Ruger mini-30 for deer and bear for about 10 years and it's fine for that, up to about 100 yds. which is also about it for the 7.62X39 cartridge. I hunt mostly thick cover and from stands and this combination works great. Some drawbacks of the red dot I have are 1) you have to turn it on when required or leave it on which eats the battery 2) the red dot does cover a fairly large area at 100 yds 3) It's not the best in bright light and 4) the adjustments aren't very precise.

It would have been better to have a button which turns on the red dot for a pre-set time at a pre-set brightness but mine doesn't. The combination is number 1 for moving targets and target acquisition pearticularly in low light. There may be better red-dots made now that incorporate some of these features. If you want a 200 yard gun for deer a higher power calibre with a conventional 3X9 (illuminated) scope might be a better choice.
 
I've been reconsidering, since the Eotech is too wide for the Storm and blocks the charging handle.

Now the real question is Zeiss Z-point or Aimpoint Micro? I have to say I'm leaning towards the Zeiss right now. But both would no doubt be good. I'm glad to hear that the 3.6 moa dot isn't too big for 100 yards.
 
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I've been reconsidering, since the Eotech is too wide for the Storm and blocks the charging handle.

Now the real question is Zeiss Z-point or Aimpoint Micro? I have to say I'm leaning towards the Zeiss right now. But both would no doubt be good. I'm glad to hear that the 3.6 moa dot isn't too big for 100 yards.
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I've heard a lot of good things about the Zeiss Z point. Although my personal experience is with the Aimpoint Micro. It is an awesome little sight! A trick with the Aimpoint, is if you want to do more precise shooting, is to turn it a brightness level down. The dot will appear smaller, although its harder to pick up.

FWIW, the new H1 Micro's are coming with the type III anodizing (same as the T1) so they look the same, but for about 100 bucks less. Unless you are using NVG, of course.


The Z point has a little solar panel on it, which helps illuminate it in bright daylight, as well its battery powered. Dont know how long the battery lasts though. I have heard that its quite robust, and obviously Zeiss glass is second to none :D
 
We're now receiving the Aluminum C-More - available as a railway, tactical or scout model. (and as always the plastic versions)

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C-More's dots range from 2 MOA to 16.

We now have stock of the C-More STS too - available with a 3.5 MOA and a 7 MOA dot.
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