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What are some pros and cons to each of these types of sights?

I've looked at the Tasco Red dot in a store, but how do these sights work outside in the bright sun?

The holo sights seem to come with different recticle configurations while the red dot type only have a dot, sometimes with a different colour.
Some scopes come with a 2x magnification. Is this an advantage or would a 1x scope with a finer dot (say 2MOA) be better?

What would be the the minimum you would pay for a decent sight? Obviously reliability is an issue, but this would not be for a life and death situation.

I've read KevinB's post on Black rifle optics and he is not keen on the holo for reliability reasons and difficulty in changing batteries.

O.
 
I have two bushnell holosights. One is currently on a pistol the other on my AR.

I've never used an aimpoint/tasco type dot sight but they are very similar.

The aimpoint/tasco sights I've seen have large dots which will limit your accuracy at longer ranges. The bushnell/eotech sights have a very small central dot. Battery replacement isn't really an issue, I always carry spares.

Magnification is great for long shots but slower close up. You should figure out what kind of shooting you want to do and chose from there. For my tac-carbine/games AR the bushnell holosight/eotech is good to go.

I personally wouldn't bother with any of the cheaper sights out there. For a little over $200 you can get the bushnell sights. I spent $60 on a used knock-off docter red-dot sight and it's essentially useless indoors... never again!
 
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I got one of the ACOG knock offs that Bushnell makes. It is terrible.
I paid over $200 for it, and it is blurry and it sucks. Depending on how bright you want the light to be determines how blurry the reticle gets. It makes the cross hairs blurry/ fuzzy.
Second to that, my AR has a colapsable stock, and if my cheak weld is not the exact same evertime, the sight does not line up straight. I can look on etime and be dead center, then the next time I raise the rifle I have to move my head around to get the sight ti line up with my frony iron sight.
It sucks.
Buy a HOLO sight and save yourself the headache.
after less than 100 rounds I removed the clone from my rifle and stored it on the shelf under " lesson learned".
But if you are strickly talking about the small red dot from tasco, it worked great on a rifle I recently sold to a co-worker. Very accurate and no problems. He easily hit a softball at 100 yards using it.
 
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Ohno said:
What are some pros and cons to each of these types of sights?

I've looked at the Tasco Red dot in a store, but how do these sights work outside in the bright sun?

The holo sights seem to come with different recticle configurations while the red dot type only have a dot, sometimes with a different colour.
Some scopes come with a 2x magnification. Is this an advantage or would a 1x scope with a finer dot (say 2MOA) be better?

What would be the the minimum you would pay for a decent sight? Obviously reliability is an issue, but this would not be for a life and death situation.

I've read KevinB's post on Black rifle optics and he is not keen on the holo for reliability reasons and difficulty in changing batteries.

O.
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Get the smallest dot possible - it looks bigger when u turn it up. U cant make a big dot smaller. Big dots obliterate small targets.
Every cheap red dot I have had has eventually crapped out.
Aimpiont or Eotech are the ONLY options. The Eotech is good for shotguns because of the outer ring the Aimpoint is good for rifles - single dot. I am partial to the aimpoint micro - small , light , 5 year battery life.
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I am playing with an Aimpoint clone and really like it. The dot is small enough to pick off SG shells at 45yds with my 10/22 but still effective at 100yds on softball sized rocks.

I can shoot with both eyes open dispite being a tube sight. The glass is likely not as 'bright' as a true AP nor is the dot but I have shot on sunny days and evenings without issue.

What I like best about this style of dot is how long the battery life is. A true AP lasts for years. Not sure how an EOTech will do.

The final plus for the AP style is you can easily adjust the height of the scope by using different ring heights. Doesn't look like the EO would be easy to shim. I have it set for perfect height on my CQB 10/22.

Just point and shoot...AP style clones are 1/3 the cost of the EO clones.

Jerry
 
I have both Aimpoints and a Bushnell Holosight gen 2 with the 1 MOA single dot (very rare) with the N size battery. They really have there own applications for sure. The Aimpoint mounts in 30mm rings and are tough as nails and a battery will last you a rediculous period of time. It is a tube design which can be more demanding on quick action shooting. The Holosight is harder on batteries but gives you a larger window and gives the effect of the reticle being projected 50 yards out....excellent for fast action wing shooting. For my $$$ I would choose a Aimpoint over a Holosight just because they are tougher and can wear lens caps for bad weather useage.
 
Anyone hear how well the Burris Extreme Tactical red dots perform? They are priced around $250 or so I think. Kind of falls in the category between cheapo red dots and the real ones.
 
hoochie said:
I can look on etime and be dead center, then the next time I raise the rifle I have to move my head around to get the sight ti line up with my front iron sight.
It sucks.
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You do not need to align your red dot optic with your front post. They are separate sighting systems and should be treated as such.

TDC
 
Steiner said:
Anyone hear how well the Burris Extreme Tactical red dots perform? They are priced around $250 or so I think. Kind of falls in the category between cheapo red dots and the real ones.
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I have one, I like it. I think I'd like a holosight more tho.
 
I was asking as I do have an Eotech, but I can't afford to get a second one for another rifle. I was thinking of the Buriss as an alternative. I think I'll have to get one and try it out.
 
TDC said:
You do not need to align your red dot optic with your front post. They are separate sighting systems and should be treated as such.

TDC
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I believe he's talking about the parallax you get with the cheaper sights.
The POI will change if you don't look through it the same every time
 
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I was asking as I do have an Eotech, but I can't afford to get a second one for another rifle. I was thinking of the Buriss as an alternative. I think I'll have to get one and try it out.
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In terms of a red dot, it's a very good one. I would suggest you get one of the burris tactical or another good quality ring to mount it, as is suceptable to shifting with the 1 ring design.
 
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I believe he's talking about the parallax you get with the cheaper sights.
The POI will change if you don't look through it the same every time
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I see. Then again, minor POI shift with a red dot at the ranges the optic is intended for shouldn't be an issue as far as making hits goes.

TDC
 
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