Redding dies
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I bought same dies and have had same problem few times. It worries me when cases get older the back pulls off later on making it harder to get case out but I made a jig to get it out. I thought it was pressure sign that the cases get stuck with tempered necks making them stick. Very interesting I can't wait to see your replies.
Rcbs shell holder 34 is what I believe is the correct holder I will measure mine later and see if it is .125 deep I did use #14 before with no problems, be sure to lube inside the neck or the expander ball can pull the shoulder back out.
Did you try screwing your sizing die down a bit more?
I have a couple of rifles with very close to minimum headspace, and if I set the full-length sizer so just touches the shell holder it's not enough. I screw it down so it touches the shell holder, then give another 1/4 or 1/2 turn to take up any spring or slack in any of the mechanism.
This just happened last night with my 22/250. Even though the cases were once fired from the same rifle, when full-length sizing them I didn't have the sizer right down tight, and the cases were super tight to chamber.
I have a couple of rifles with very close to minimum headspace, and if I set the full-length sizer so just touches the shell holder it's not enough. I screw it down so it touches the shell holder, then give another 1/4 or 1/2 turn to take up any spring or slack in any of the mechanism.
This just happened last night with my 22/250. Even though the cases were once fired from the same rifle, when full-length sizing them I didn't have the sizer right down tight, and the cases were super tight to chamber.
When you cam it over, check and see if you can see daylight between the shell plate and the bottom of the die.
Someone mentioned filing off a bit off the bottom of the die. Uhhhmm, don't do this. Cheaper to knock off a thou or two off a cheap shell plate than an expensive die.
Bile
Have you measured the shoulder bump ?
Has the brass been fired in a different chamber ?
Is the new barrel a custom or just a new factory rifle?
What is the brand of brass you are using?
When you use a rod to remove the brass from the chamber is this after firing ?
Have you measured the shoulder bump ?
Has the brass been fired in a different chamber ?
Is the new barrel a custom or just a new factory rifle?
What is the brand of brass you are using?
When you use a rod to remove the brass from the chamber is this after firing ?
So are the rounds difficult to chamber, or just difficult to remove after firing?
That actually reminds me that I have a Redding 308 neck sizer that touches the edge of the shoulder and leaves a bright ring where it touches.
I emailed Redding and they said send it back with 5 fired cases.
I checked cases from a few rifles, even an old target rifle with a super tight chamber. When full-length sizing for this rifle there's barley any resistance going in the die, so I know it's not oversize cases.
I emailed Redding and they said send it back with 5 fired cases.
I checked cases from a few rifles, even an old target rifle with a super tight chamber. When full-length sizing for this rifle there's barley any resistance going in the die, so I know it's not oversize cases.
Glad that got sorted out. Someone must've been hurry to get out of work on a Friday. lol
My bad, I read your post too quickly and thought you said it was a mislabeled die and not that you suspect it's a mislabeled die.
this is worth repeating. some brands of dies are less susceptible to this, but it's the first thing that should be checked
Below is my Redding FL .243 die equipped with a modified Forster expander and spindle assembly. I will never understand why Redding uses a oblong expander that creates so much drag even if the inside of the neck is lubed. The Redding expander induced far too much neck runout and now with the Forster expander the runout is .001 or less with neck turned brass. NOTE, when the necks are not turned your neck runout should be the same as the neck thickness variations.
My preference in dies are Forster full length benchrest dies with the high mounted floating expander. The Forster dies produce the least amount of neck runout out of any other die I have ever used. Bottom line, I recommend anyone to try a Forster benchrest die and see how concentric your cases are after sizing.
Below the expander enters the case neck while the neck is held and centered in the die. This design prevents the expander from pulling the neck off center and inducing runout.
I would still like to know "WHY" the Redding die failed to push the shoulder back far enough. I would also contact Redding and see if they will fix the die or give you a new one.
I use Redding competition shell holders that do not push the case into the die as far. Meaning the five different shell holders control the amount of shoulder bump in .002 increments. I have a Lee FL .223 that will push the case shoulder back .009 shorter than a GO gauge. And most dies will push the shoulder back far more than necessary and it is very rare that a die fails to push the shoulder back enough to chamber. Nothing is written in stone but only once in 47 years of reloading did I need to lap the top of a shell holder to get enough shoulder bump.
When you full length resize the case it grows in length as it is squeezed down in diameter. And it is the last few thousandths of sizing that pushes the case shoulder back. And a small base die will cause the shoulder to be moved further forward before being pushed back and need to be trimmed more than a standard die. Normally if the die fails to push the shoulder back far enough you have tight or shorter chamber headspace and a "long" die.
In the Savage forums you see this problem all the time when the barrel is changed and the headspace is set too tight using scotch tape on a new case as a headspace gauge. And their next posting is asking why their die isn't bumping the shoulder back far enough.
My preference in dies are Forster full length benchrest dies with the high mounted floating expander. The Forster dies produce the least amount of neck runout out of any other die I have ever used. Bottom line, I recommend anyone to try a Forster benchrest die and see how concentric your cases are after sizing.
Below the expander enters the case neck while the neck is held and centered in the die. This design prevents the expander from pulling the neck off center and inducing runout.
I would still like to know "WHY" the Redding die failed to push the shoulder back far enough. I would also contact Redding and see if they will fix the die or give you a new one.
I use Redding competition shell holders that do not push the case into the die as far. Meaning the five different shell holders control the amount of shoulder bump in .002 increments. I have a Lee FL .223 that will push the case shoulder back .009 shorter than a GO gauge. And most dies will push the shoulder back far more than necessary and it is very rare that a die fails to push the shoulder back enough to chamber. Nothing is written in stone but only once in 47 years of reloading did I need to lap the top of a shell holder to get enough shoulder bump.
When you full length resize the case it grows in length as it is squeezed down in diameter. And it is the last few thousandths of sizing that pushes the case shoulder back. And a small base die will cause the shoulder to be moved further forward before being pushed back and need to be trimmed more than a standard die. Normally if the die fails to push the shoulder back far enough you have tight or shorter chamber headspace and a "long" die.
In the Savage forums you see this problem all the time when the barrel is changed and the headspace is set too tight using scotch tape on a new case as a headspace gauge. And their next posting is asking why their die isn't bumping the shoulder back far enough.
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