Reduced 30-06 loads

[Kamloops hunter]

I am looking for some reliable reduced 30-06 loads for my 9 year old to shoot. He turns 10 in August and will be able to hunt deer in BC this fall. I have some SR IMR 4759 powder and some 110 gr. vmax and sp bullets. Does anyone have some advice on using this powder for reduced loads. 110 - 130 gr. bullets?

 

[smellie]

Try lighter-weight CAST bullets: they require much less pressure to shove down the bore. Less pressure = less recoil.

The C.E. Harris UNIVERSAL LOAD might help here. It calls for a 180 CAST bullet with 13 grains of RED DOT. Gives about 1800 ft/sec in the '06 and generally 2 MOA. Try it with one of those 165s from the Lee 7.62x39 mould and it ought to work okay.

Hope this helps.
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[just having some fun]

I am looking for some reliable reduced 30-06 loads for my 9 year old to shoot. He turns 10 in August and will be able to hunt deer in BC this fall. I have some SR IMR 4759 powder and some 110 gr. vmax and sp bullets. Does anyone have some advice on using this powder for reduced loads. 110 - 130 gr. bullets?

Check out

h ttp://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

also look up youth / reduced loads

any of the good reloading books should give you some data

 

[Silvertip13]

20-22 grns of sr4759 with a 110gr sp comes out at 1650-1820 fps. Not much for recoil or noise.

 

[handofzeus]

Been doing 165gr. hardcast with 25gr H4895. Sweet for punching holes in paper.

 

[Kamloops hunter]

Thanks so far. I have read that the H4895 powder is significantly louder than SR 4759. Does anyone know if that is true? I am trying to keep the noise down too.

I think I will try the 110 gr with 21 grains SR4759 to start, Hoping for the reduced noise, recoil, and ok groups. I am new to reloading and will have to do some research on cast bullets. At least my two boys are interested and help reload...

 

[bluegrizz77]

I know silvertip13's reduced loads are quite, sounds like a 22 mag when he shoots grouse.

 

[Bigbubba]

Some thoughts on this:
1) get some hearing protection (electronic muffs). You dont want your kid to be a deaf as me. Had to get Hearing aids at 50 years old.....
2) check the reloading steps for these light loads - since the 06 is a large case, when the case is horizontal (when you fire) you may not get consistent ignition because the powder is all spread out vs packed in tight like it is with a regular load. Usually the manual will recommend a piece of dacron or other "stuffing" to keep the powder down at the primer end for consistent ignition results.

 

[Silvertip13]

The sr4759 loads don't seem to be sensitive to shooting position as I have tested the theory and no stuffing is needed. Cold weather or hot seems to have little effect on the pressure and velocity also. The accuracy is good enough for shooting grouse heads at 50 yards.

 

[hometownhero]

The speer reloading book has a few.
100gr rnsp
sr4759 start 16.0gr 1548fps max 20gr 1960 fps

110gr hp
imr4227 start 29gr 2297fps max 31gr 2475fps

110gr rnsp, tmj, spire sp
AA5744 start 26gr 1956 fps max 27gr 2033 fps

130gr hp, fnsp
AA5744 start 25gr 1814 fps max 27gr 1941 fps

150gr rnsp, fmj bt, spitz sp, mt sp, gs sp
AA5744 start 26gr 1933 fps max 28gr 2052 fps

165gr spitz btsp, spitz sp, gs sp
Sr4759 start 21gr 1616fps max 25gr 1941 fps

They have a few more listed but that should cover it

 

[Kamloops hunter]

Hometownhero, which volume if the Speer reloading manual did you get the data from. When I looked at the one at the store I didn't see any reduced loads.

I agree bigbubba. What I do with him is put ear plugs in his ears then electronic muffs turned up all the way that way he can still hear me but the shot is less. (that's what I do for the same reason)

Cheers thanks a lot to everyone so far I really appreciate all the advice.

 

[hometownhero]

Hometownhero, which volume if the Speer reloading manual did you get the data from. When I looked at the one at the store I didn't see any reduced loads.

Manual #14 is what I have it came with the rock chucker kit I bought at xmas

 

[Boomer]

With 125 and 130 gr bullets I settled on 45-47 grs of 4895 for 2600 fps depending on which bullet I chose. Recoil and blast are mild, but there is more than enough power for deer hunting. The long for weight 130 gr TTSX shoots pretty flat at that speed, making it a good choice for an open country deer bullet, if a little expensive for plinking. For plinking get the 125 gr Sierra or the 130 gr Hornady and 25 grs of SR-4759 to make an economical and fun plinking and practice round. Take steps to ensure you don't double charge your charges of 4759, its easier to do than you might imagine, and your kid won't like that!

 

[mihasic]

I tried 11 - 20 gr imr sr4759 under 100 and 110 gr bullets. Works fine with almost no recoil.

 

[Boomer]

Hometownhero, which volume if the Speer reloading manual did you get the data from. When I looked at the one at the store I didn't see any reduced loads. . . .

If you look through the .30/06 section in the #14 Speer manual you'll see reduced loads as the last listing under some, but not all, of the bullet data.

 

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