reduced loads for .300win mag

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do any of you know of a factory reduced load for the .300win. i only have one gun right now and the deer on van. island are preety small.i know there is a reduced recoill round for 30-06 but can not find one for the .300.Or mayby a custom hand load you might have
thanks
 
What bullet weight do you want? Will look in the old Speer manual when I get off work....................Harold
 
Here is a dandy that I have used in both the 300 Win Mag and the 308 Norma Mag. It is accurate and gentle, delivering 308 Win velocities. 180 grain Hornady IL with 50 grains of IMR 3031. Great deer load, but will shoot to a different point than will your regular hunting loads. Eagleye.
 
I'll second Eagle eyes load.....I shot ALOT of 300 winmag and used the same load for range plinking and breaking in new barrels without eating up a bunch of powder.
I also used a 50 grain charge of IMR3031 with 180 horny's, they worked Great, flew over the chrony a hair over 2500fps in my old Tikka, and proved to be a very accurate load :cool:
 
I also suggest using a 180 grn loaded down. I looked for the same thing when I got my 300 winmag. I didn't want to deal with the recoil, and thought that the deer didn't need such heavy bullets. So I tried a 150 grn with a low powder charge (can't remember exactly, maybe 61 grns of 4320?). I didn't feel a difference in the recoil, and a 150 grn bullet traveling at 3100 fps will destroy more meat than a 180 grn traveling at a slower velocity
 
the gun is a parker-hale safari super with a 22in. barrel.i do not have a wieght in mind and recoil is not that much of a issue.i am looking for some thing that will not blow up like a hand grenade.i am not a fan of long shots,150 and under. i know some one will say go buy a .308 or somthing like that but my girl friend has one.plus we have a small bank account right now.
thank for all the help:)
 
Well, I would say you could sell the 300 win mag and get another rifle. There are plenty of cheap 30-06 available. With a 22" barrel you are losing a lot of potential and making the gun into a 30-06, just burning more powder
 
StevieK said:
Well, I would say you could sell the 300 win mag and get another rifle. There are plenty of cheap 30-06 available. With a 22" barrel you are losing a lot of potential and making the gun into a 30-06, just burning more powder
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Well ...... not really. We have been around this block before in these forums, but a 22" .300Win is not the same as a 22" .30-06. I don't mind the idea of selling one to buy another, but the reason given here is not a good one.
 
Easiest way to make a reduced load is to go to Hodgdons Powder site, look up data for H4895 and use their 60% rule which means that you can use 60% of their maximum load with H4895, and get a reduced load. You can go up and down a bit, too. The site gives you instructions somewhwere.
 
rral22 said:
Well ...... not really. We have been around this block before in these forums, but a 22" .300Win is not the same as a 22" .30-06. I don't mind the idea of selling one to buy another, but the reason given here is not a good one.
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I never said that a 22" 300 win mag is the same as a 22" 30-06. The 300 win mag is ideal in a 26" barrel. with a 22" pipe, it is less efficient because some powder may not be burned by the time the bullet has left it. I was saying that a 300 win mag in a 22" barrel is similar to a 30-06 in a standard 24" barrel
 
well i may have soveld my problem.my girl friend boughtme a sks for my b-day last oct. i may try some soft points out of it. but thanks for all the info.this is why i like this site,you get so much info from so many differnt sides.when i start to reload i will try out some of the things said here.i guess i will keep the 300 now and save it for bear and moose.:)
 
StevieK said:
I never said that a 22" 300 win mag is the same as a 22" 30-06. The 300 win mag is ideal in a 26" barrel. with a 22" pipe, it is less efficient because some powder may not be burned by the time the bullet has left it. I was saying that a 300 win mag in a 22" barrel is similar to a 30-06 in a standard 24" barrel
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I used to believe this, too -- until I got a 22.5 inch barrel for my old Sako.

With 73 grains of IMR 4831 behind a 180 Accubond, I got 3,010 over the chronograph. With my new standard hunting load of 77.5 grains of Vihtavuori N560, I'm pushing the same 180 Accubond at 3,100 f.p.s. over the chronograph and getting superb accuracy -- and I've fired this rifle and load at Vokes at 600 metres and clipped the V-bull. It's also been devastating on deer.

This goes to show that the .300 Winchester Magnum can still be a force to be reckoned with out of a shorter barrel.

The only downside is that the blast and fireball with the N560 load is practically thermonuclear!

My question for the people who used the 50-grain 3031 loads is whether they needed to do anything to settle the powder. Wouldn't 50 grains leave the case almost half empty? That's an awful lot of air space. I'd be interested to hear if there is a problem with leaving so much air space in this large cartridge. If not, I might just have to try this load out.
 
p-17 said:
My question for the people who used the 50-grain 3031 loads is whether they needed to do anything to settle the powder. Wouldn't 50 grains leave the case almost half empty? That's an awful lot of air space. I'd be interested to hear if there is a problem with leaving so much air space in this large cartridge. If not, I might just have to try this load out.
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I never had a prob with the air space...just dump as usual:)
There are quite a few reloading manuals that list start loads very close to the 50 grains that was suggested, it's not a prob;)
 
I've frequently stuck with starting loads for practice and deer hunting. Let me check my notes, I had a starting load that was accurate in my Ruger with cheap 150gr. Hornady bullets at .30-06-like speeds. Very easy to shoot.
 
StevieK said:
I never said that a 22" 300 win mag is the same as a 22" 30-06. The 300 win mag is ideal in a 26" barrel. with a 22" pipe, it is less efficient because some powder may not be burned by the time the bullet has left it. I was saying that a 300 win mag in a 22" barrel is similar to a 30-06 in a standard 24" barrel
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And I'm still saying that is not true. Your theory just isn't correct in real life.

A 22" .300Win will still deliver significantly more than a 24" .30-06.
 
rral22 said:
And I'm still saying that is not true. Your theory just isn't correct in real life.

A 22" .300Win will still deliver significantly more than a 24" .30-06.
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Well then I apologize. By looking at hodgdon reloading data, a 300 win mag pushing a 180 gr, loaded to a max load with IMR 4350 travels at 2974 fps. A 30-06 loaded to max with the same powder travels at 2752 fps. Taking off 50 fps per inch of barrel, the 300 win mag goes down to 2774 fps. That was my rationale. The 50 fps is a general estimate that people use for barrel length and speed, and I know that it does differ depending on the cartridge. When reloading, the short barrel can be compensated by powders with a faster burn rate, but the OP said that he does not reload, so factory ammunition would not cater to this. But I do know that paper theories and real life ballistics hardly ever match up.
 
The Remington Managed Recoil load works well. My 12-year-old son is learning with it, and it is indeed about half the recoil of a 180-grain regular .300 WM load.
 
I have shot literally hundreds of that 50/3031/180 Hornady load out of at least 4 different 300 Wins and 3, 308 Norma Mags. It always worked flawlessly. No need for magnum primers either. As a matter of fact, I am looking at a 100 yard group, using that load in one of the 308 Normas, that measures under ½" I have a chronograph note on the paper that says 2605 fps. This target was shot several years ago. Regards, Eagleye.
 
boy did i open a can of worms lol. i am going to ask around my area to see if any one is hand loading for the300. see if we can work up a load. if any of you live in campell river b.c. p.m. me and we can get together.thanks again for all the info.
cheers:cheers:
 
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