registering non restricted into restricted

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So I have an idea to buy an 8.5" and put a folder on it. This would make it restricted length and greatly reduce the resale value. Here's my question if I put a folder or otherwise make it under 26" and wish to keep it this way do I just call cfc and ask them to register it as restricted (and yes I know once restricted it doesn't go back to non) or is there additional work beyond just he phone call?
Thanks for your advice.
 
Good question...I'd be careful with that phonecall. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong here,please,but I thought altering a non restricted into restricted makes it a prohibited automaticly...:confused:
 
Found under : http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm#a3

"A3. There are three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited.

Non-restricted firearms are ordinary rifles and shotguns, other than those referred to below.

Restricted firearms include:
• handguns that are not prohibited;
• semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm;
• rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm; and
• firearms restricted by Criminal Code Regulations.

Prohibited firearms include:
• handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
• rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm; • full automatics;
• converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
• firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations."


...or is it just a misunderstanding by me?
 
I guess you are right, you may have a prohibited weapon, mine is gone keep is long stock because i want to enjoying it by trying it at grouse hunting... JP.
 
Found under : http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm#a3

"A3. There are three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited.

Non-restricted firearms are ordinary rifles and shotguns, other than those referred to below.

Restricted firearms include:
• handguns that are not prohibited;
• semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm;
• rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm; and
• firearms restricted by Criminal Code Regulations.

Prohibited firearms include:
• handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
• rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm; • full automatics;
• converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
• firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations."


...or is it just a misunderstanding by me?

You are misunderstanding. The restricted class includes:

rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm

Putting a folding stock on makes it restricted if it can fire when shorter than 660mm.

Prohibited class includes:

rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm;

So, if you saw off the stock and get under 660mm it becomes prohibited.

It is ridiculous and confusing, but changing parts is not considered "altering".


Mark
 
Found under : http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm#a3

"A3. There are three classes of firearms: non-restricted, restricted and prohibited.

Non-restricted firearms are ordinary rifles and shotguns, other than those referred to below.

Restricted firearms include:
• handguns that are not prohibited;
• semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm;
• rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm; and
• firearms restricted by Criminal Code Regulations.

Prohibited firearms include:
• handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less and handguns that discharge .25 or .32 calibre ammunition, except for a few specific ones used in International Shooting Union competitions;
• rifles and shotguns that have been altered by sawing or other means so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm or their overall length is less than 660 mm; • full automatics;
• converted automatics, namely full automatics that have been altered so that they fire only one projectile when the trigger is squeezed; and
• firearms prohibited by Criminal Code Regulations."


...or is it just a misunderstanding by me?

Yes, it is a misunderstanding. Basically that section means "no sawn offs".

Replacing the original stock with a folding one is permissible, providing you re-register it as required.
 
Yeah i had read that a few site sponsors who ship shotguns with pistol grips provide the warning that to use it is to create a restricted gun, just wanted to play it safe here.
 
Heres an idea:

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