Reloadin Hornaday 308 168gr A-MAX for long range .

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Good day all.
Just curious,has anyone reloaded them for long range?
My rifle likes it as 168 smk,but I'm getting some issues with loads of 168gr A-MAX past 200 meters.
 
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I have shot them (168 amax) out to 825y with good results. Don't know if that counts as 'long' range to you lol. Maybe it's medium range?

Varget for powder, Lapua cases, CCI200 primers. I was seating them to mag length and they worked well. Now I'm seating them ~.02" off the lands and they seem to group a skootch better.

What issues are you having with the 168SMK. I know a few guys than can make it to 800y no issues with Federal GMM factory ammo.
 
I have shot them (168 amax) out to 825y with good results. Don't know if that counts as 'long' range to you lol. Maybe it's medium range?

Varget for powder, Lapua cases, CCI200 primers. I was seating them to mag length and they worked well. Now I'm seating them ~.02" off the lands and they seem to group a skootch better.

What issues are you having with the 168SMK. I know a few guys than can make it to 800y no issues with Federal GMM factory ammo.

Corrected the question.
I was talking about 168gr A-MAX.
With 168 smk I don't have no problems up to 600 meters, my range is 600 meters.
 
What issues are you having? I have the same gun and shoot Sierra tmk 175s with 43 grains of varget. Mine group under 1” at 100, about 1.5” at 200 and have made lots of hits on gongs out to 400-800 yards.
 
The issue is I can't get good grouping passed 200 meters with 168gr A-MAX. But with 168 smk and 175 smk I get 0.75 or better.
Does someone else have the same issue with Hornaday amax?
 
My buddy said he never was able to get 168amax shoot in his Savage Model 10. *shrugs* maybe it's a savage thing.

I've got a Tikka.

try a different powder, or maybe change powders. But if the 168smk is working for you, maybe stick with them?
 
Amax $45 a box and smk $60.
I've tried imr4896,varget and imr4064.
Amax and 41gr imr4064 can get 0.5 moa at 100 meters but 200 and longer gets really bad.
 
Do you know what velocity you are achieving? I'm at ~2675fps. I'm using 43.7gr of Varget on collet neck sized lapua brass, 44gr on virgin brass.

Personally, I don't like Federal brass, but if you're getting good results with smk and that brass, it's hard to point the finger in that direction.

If you're really set on amax's, I'd say use Varget, try a bunch of different charge weights and seating depths, use a chronograph, see what works.....but don't chase your tail too long or you'll end up spending more money than you're trying to save ;)
 
Do you know what velocity you are achieving? I'm at ~2675fps. I'm using 43.7gr of Varget on collet neck sized lapua brass, 44gr on virgin brass.

Personally, I don't like Federal brass, but if you're getting good results with smk and that brass, it's hard to point the finger in that direction.

If you're really set on amax's, I'd say use Varget, try a bunch of different charge weights and seating depths, use a chronograph, see what works.....but don't chase your tail too long or you'll end up spending more money than you're trying to save ;)

I don't have a chronograph,not sure what velocity im getting from that charge. But you're right about chasing tail on that,just gonna load SMK.
And ill try lapua brass,seems like you can't go wrong with that one.
 
I have one of the older Savage 10FP models with the 26" barrel. The rifle absolutely hated Federal GMM ammo, so badly that I ended up selling the ammo to a friend with a LTR. But with 168 A-Max it groups extremely well. I use Federal 210M primers, Varget, and Winchester brass that I weight sorted to within half a grain.
 
I have 2 Savage 10TR’s both with a 20” barrel.

One (in an MDT LSS Chassis) does not like any bullet weight over 155gr which is bizarre. I used various charges in Varget, RL15 and BL-C(2). Shoots like 1.5 - 2 MOA with 168 gr projectiles but loves 155 AMAX.

The other in a custom made pillar bedded McMillan “style” stock loves 168 gr AMAX and Hornady BTHP Match.

Best recipes with 168 AMAX has been 43 grains of RL15 or 44.4 grains of BL-C(2). Primers are flat with the BL-C(2) charge but both loads shoot cloverleafs all day long.
 
I have 2 Savage 10TR’s both with a 20” barrel.

One (in an MDT LSS Chassis) does not like any bullet weight over 155gr which is bizarre. I used various charges in Varget, RL15 and BL-C(2). Shoots like 1.5 - 2 MOA with 168 gr projectiles but loves 155 AMAX.

The other in a custom made pillar bedded McMillan “style” stock loves 168 gr AMAX and Hornady BTHP Match.

Best recipes with 168 AMAX has been 43 grains of RL15 or 44.4 grains of BL-C(2). Primers are flat with the BL-C(2) charge but both loads shoot cloverleafs all day long.

My load works out to be 0.5 moa 168gr smax over imr4064. But as soon as I'll shoot 200+ meters its changing. Maybe I should load it more on 43+ gr?
 
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