reloading 12ga slugs

Yes you can use AA hulls, I just started casting the 7/8oz Lee Drive-key using waa12sl wads and a cardboard undercard.
Smoothbore 870 with Skeet2 choke is accurate and super cheap to shoot for about .13c each.

The Lee slug uses an 8 point crimp.
 
i have a lyman mold for casing slugs and just follow their data. while i haven't reloaded the slugs for a couple of years, i recall that the slugs just slipped into a regular wad and you reloaded it like a regular 1 oz load. i used my 30 year old lee 12 gauge reloader for the slugs.

if you call lyman or check out their website, you should be able to get a page indicating 7 different hulls/loads/wads/primer showing different velocities and pressure. am looking at the info and see it was taken from the 4th edition of the lyman shotshell reloading handbook. pm me if you want more info or have a specific case you want to reload for.
 
1shot said:
Yes you can use AA hulls, I just started casting the 7/8oz Lee Drive-key using waa12sl wads and a cardboard undercard.
Smoothbore 870 with Skeet2 choke is accurate and super cheap to shoot for about .13c each.

The Lee slug uses an 8 point crimp.
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How do these slugs group?
 
I loaded some Lyman slugs a couple of years ago. I bought them from Cannon's they're the ones that look like a giant pellet gun pellet. Can't recall the exact recipe but it definitely was 3" Remington hulls, Winchester primers, 50 gr of Blue dot, and regular target wad.

These shoot reasonably well out of a smooth bore. My partner has taken 3 deer in two years with these (terminal effect is astounding). They shoot terribly out of my rifled barrel slug gun though.

I'd really like to find a load (and the necessary compenents) that would shoot accurately out of my rifled barrel 870!
 
bclinehand said:
Anyone got any info for the Lyman holowbase slug.........and what kind of tool is used to fold the hull back onto itself (not a star crimp)
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I've reloading slugs for a few years and don't any problem with the star crimp (Just make sure to identify your hulls, don't want to confuse slugs and #9)

Never did any serious grouping, just blasting stuff away up to 50 yards... I like the .690 round balls the best :)
 
Brutus said:
Sounds like the Lyman 'sabot' slug. It's not really saboted so to speak, I think they use Winchester normal wads.
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yes, you can use: WAA12 or WAA12F114 as per the info Lyman supplied to me. various powder choices include SR4746; WSF; and, Herco.
 
gregc said:
yes, you can use: WAA12 or WAA12F114 as per the info Lyman supplied to me. various powder choices include SR4746; WSF; and, Herco.
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I have some of these Lyman 'sabot' slugs purchased from a dealer on ebay. The solid bullets alone are sold there. They weigh 350 grains each.
These 20 gauge slugs, must have an amount of linotype in the alloy.
When they bounce off each other, they actually 'klink.'

Out of my rifled barrel (M87) dismountable barrel on my older Ithaca M37, they are accurate with iron sights.
One and a half inch groups at 35 and 75 yards.

This is not the first time I have heard, that they have superior terminal results on deer.
Some day I will find that out, firsthand.

Cheers
 
Brutus said:
I have some of these Lyman 'sabot' slugs purchased from a dealer on ebay. The solid bullets alone are sold there. They weigh 350 grains each.
These 20 gauge slugs, must have an amount of linotype in the alloy.
When they bounce off each other, they actually 'klink.'

Out of my rifled barrel (M87) dismountable barrel on my older Ithaca M37, they are accurate with iron sights.
One and a half inch groups at 35 and 75 yards.

This is not the first time I have heard, that they have superior terminal results on deer.
Some day I will find that out, firsthand.

Cheers
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am not sure if i'm 100% accurate but my understanding of 12 gauge slugs and some blackpowder rifles is that you don't want the slugs to be made out of lead with linotype as only pure lead without linotype is recommended. apparently, the bullets made with linotype are somewhat harder and don't compress enough as they go through the choke and/or engage the rifling. using lead is recommended as it is somewhat softer and will conform to the barrel diameters. over time, using harder bullets will bugger up your choke. as well, using lead ensures the bullet will transfer most, if not all, of the energy into the animal rather than staying in one hard piece and passing through. this is why many of the older blackpowder rifles were so effective given their slower trajectory and smaller caliber.

however, this is somewhat irrelevant as the lyman slugs could be considered a poor man's sabot as they are enclosed in a wad and don't come into direct contact with the rifling and/or choke of the shotgun.

like to hear other comments on this. thanks!!
 
I cast and shoot the Lyman sabot slug (looks like a pellet gun pellet)
12g in a rem 870 IC barrel. I only use the Lyman book for info

I use win AA hulls of a different color Grey vers red (fold crimp) and mark then with a black marker

I can put a clay target out at 50yds on the berm and break them repeatedly app 3 out of 5 shots iron sights on a good day

So I would say they shoot great out of my 870
 
I am working on importing some sabots so you can reload your own high quality slugs like Winchester premier and Remington core-lokt...

To make the non star fancy style roll crimp you need a roll crimp tool and a drill press.
 
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