230 gr fmj or JHP for a 45 ACp 4.3 grains of clays... nice accurate, softer recoil, clean firing... did i say accurate, and goes through 3/8 aspenite like a hot knife through butter. Seems to like 1911 and glock 21. Max is 4.6 gr. so go low to start. I use the 4.3 in both 1911 and glock 21, all to great accuracy


















































