Reloading and home insurance

Fall Guy said:
Why do Insurance Companies sell 'Comprehensive' coverage? Are you saying there are caveats?

Believe me, in dealing with insurance companies, there are PLENTY of caveats..READ your policy, all the fine print, definitions and exclusions.
 
python357 said:
Believe me, in dealing with insurance companies, there are PLENTY of caveats..READ your policy, all the fine print, definitions and exclusions.
I have read it and spoke with them. We went through some 'What if's....' These were noted on my file.
 
I've felt that generally - you're screwed.

If you completely disclose everything - you're going to pay a lot more and get a lot of hassle from your insurance company - if they keep you.
(My father made the mistake of asking his insurer if he had enough coverage for his firearms collection - 6 months hassling ensued along with an increase in rates.)

If you don't disclose and have a problem; they'll use what they can find to not step up to coverage.

I'm not sure where the happy medium is.
 
Just checked with my agent on Friday. No problems, as it's for personal (hobby) use (providing they're stored as recommended). If I was doing it as a business, that would be another story.

TFC
 
python357 said:
Non disclosure of WHAT..exactly. Smoking is an exemple in Quebec, because you get a discount if you're a non-smoker. If you say you don't smoke to get a better price and you DO smoke, you can bet your last dollar the insurance company won't pay if a fire destroys your house and the direct cause is a smoker's accessory (cig, match, lighter). Fireplaces are another, because if you have one, you must declare it and pay more for the fire protection. If you don't, to save money..HA HA caught again, we no pay !

I looked at my homeowners insurance and found nothing to indicate I should declare reloading or firearms for that matter. If I want specific protection for my "guns" then yes, I have to specify them, pictures, make and caliber. Same for specific protection of jewelry. Otherwise, I'm automatically covered by a blanket amount ( varies from company to company) for the firearms and the jewelry.
Insurance in a contract off "Utmost Good Faith"> This is Insurance Law. You will not find it in your policy.

What this law says is, basically, that you, the Insured, disclose ALL relevant fact regarding the property that you are insuring, whether or not, there is a question about them. On the other hand, the insurance company is required to reveal all the policy clasues to you and stand behind the contract fully. If there is any dispute about any of the clause's then any doubt goes to the benifit of you, the insured. This is unique in the law of contracts.

If, on inspection following a claim, the insurance company find that there has be a nondiclosure of a fact that is relenent to the acceptance of the policy, then the insurance company may decline the claim and void the policy. You get the premium back. This can happen whether or not the facts discovered has anything to do with the claim.

for example if you fail to declare that you have a wood burning stove in your hous for heating, and you have damage to the house caused by a storm. When the insurance adjuster arrives, see's the wood stove, calls the company and discover's that the stove has not been declared, then youi are now into a world of difficulty. The claim could be denied at that point and the policy voided. I am not saying that it will happen all the time but it has happened and it will happen again.

Be careful out there.
 
Gibbs505

What you're saying may apply in BC, where you're governed by the English Common Law. In Quebec, it's the French Civil Code (ammended and reviewed in 1994)..that's a whole set of different rules, procedures and regulations. Where the Common Law system relies mainly on Jurispudence (past decisions on cases by judges)and the written word of the Law,the French Civil Code relies on the interpretation of the Law, the spirit of the Law, its written word AND Jurispudence. Your overall assesment of the Insurance Law is certainly correct for your neck of the woods, but insurance policies in Quebec rely of a completely different set of rules. In Quebec, contracts written in English have to be carefully translated to an equivalent and duplicate French version. The FRENCH version is considered binding in case of contractual disputes.
 
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