Reloading costs?
- Thread starter KMAX
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That's what it cost to play, here on the rock anyways. Got 3 lbs from BC $180, got 3 lbs here in NL $180... Just as well buy here for the overpriced stuff, get it instantly..
OMG.. Ive never paid more than $28 a pound for .223 powder. They are robbing you guys.
Don't let any of these liars make you believe that reloading SAVES money... by the time you buy all the equipment and components it is costing you... and that is not factoring in the time to do the loading, building a reloading station, storing all the gear, driving all over hell's half acre to find the brass and bullets and powder... stockpiling ten times the components than you need etc... etc...
Just watch what happens when the inmates respond to this post... they all drank the Koolade... they have all spent a lot of time convincing themselves and their spouses and partners that reloading is cheaper... and it can be in certain specific circumstances, but taken as a whole... it just ain't... to me there are better reasons to reload than money... It appeals to my OCD, making highly consistent ammunition as I need it... when I need it... the ability to tweak the best performance out of my firearms... and rows of shiny brass are purty...
Just watch what happens when the inmates respond to this post... they all drank the Koolade... they have all spent a lot of time convincing themselves and their spouses and partners that reloading is cheaper... and it can be in certain specific circumstances, but taken as a whole... it just ain't... to me there are better reasons to reload than money... It appeals to my OCD, making highly consistent ammunition as I need it... when I need it... the ability to tweak the best performance out of my firearms... and rows of shiny brass are purty...
When I can think back to paying $48 for an 8lb keg I quess prices have gone up a tad, thankfuly I still have a few lbs of that stuff.
hometownhero
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I load some brass over 10 times. Would I win a gold medal in 1000 yard shooting no but it will kill whatever I point it at for as far as I can reliably shoot.
It costs me $0.23 per round for good quality bulk .223 not including brass.
$600.00 for 6,000 Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT W/C part number 2267B $0.10 ea.
$228.00 for 8lbs IMR 8208 (XBR) 7000 grains per pound. 25 grains per round $0.10 ea.
$30.00 for 1,000 Sellier & Bellot SR primers. $0.03 ea.
These are current prices for the components.
For those who complain that components cannot be found the trick is to purchase the components when you find them.
I can currently find SR primers for $30.00/1,000 and powder at around $228.00/8LBS.
I ordered the bulk FMJ's at the height of the Sandy Hook panic and waited 5 months for them to arrive.
When I get down to a 1/2 box I will order another one.
If ya wanna shoot cheap ya gotta stack deep.
50m using an EOTech (no magnifier) through a 14.5" Noveske Afghan.
$600.00 for 6,000 Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT W/C part number 2267B $0.10 ea.
$228.00 for 8lbs IMR 8208 (XBR) 7000 grains per pound. 25 grains per round $0.10 ea.
$30.00 for 1,000 Sellier & Bellot SR primers. $0.03 ea.
These are current prices for the components.
For those who complain that components cannot be found the trick is to purchase the components when you find them.
I can currently find SR primers for $30.00/1,000 and powder at around $228.00/8LBS.
I ordered the bulk FMJ's at the height of the Sandy Hook panic and waited 5 months for them to arrive.
When I get down to a 1/2 box I will order another one.
If ya wanna shoot cheap ya gotta stack deep.
50m using an EOTech (no magnifier) through a 14.5" Noveske Afghan.
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REALLY ...lol just kidding . Yes with all the gear and components , I purchased, now that I put some thought into it , about $2200 , to get 1800 vac rnds. Could have got 1800 factory rnds for the same cost. But the next 1800 will cost half that. I figure .60 cents a rnd for vmax is good, considering that's what I pay for AE black box . The powder is the killer ,$30 a lb , but it cost me $30 a lb for delivery . And they know that here, so it's $60 a lb here. I heard if you buy 10 or more lbs from higgensons , it's free delivery .( have to check that out).
Even with component price variations, it costs about half to reload even 9mm. The savings are more substantial for bigger caliber or hunting rounds
They say the more you reload, the more you tend to shoot negating any savings but of course that is a dumb statement because you get to shoot more for less
For plinking rounds of .223 or 7.62x39 or even sometimes 7.62x51 you can't typically reload cheaper than buying norinco ammo
I think that in the end, like everything in life, it comes down to time vs. money!
They say the more you reload, the more you tend to shoot negating any savings
but of course that is a dumb statement because you get to shoot more for lessFor plinking rounds of .223 or 7.62x39 or even sometimes 7.62x51 you can't typically reload cheaper than buying norinco ammo
I think that in the end, like everything in life, it comes down to time vs. money!
9mm is the fastest to reload. Put spent cases in a tumbler for about 1hr. Cases then go to a progressive press ( in my case a Dillon 550) I have to place a case into the turret and also have to place a bullet when a case gets to that stage. once the turret has cases at every station; you turn the turret, then add a case and place a bullet; then pull the handle. this takes 3-5 seconds. It might take an hour to do a few hundred rounds.
.223 is far more time consuming.
again on the Dillon 550; but all my cases get resized on an RCBS single stage.
brass gets cleaned, then resized, then cleaned again to get lube off them. then trimmed, chamfered and deburred. And depending ont he brass; it may need to have the primer pockets swaged. then the process is the same as the 9mm. case prep is very time consuming.
Avalonthas
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Depending on why and what you reload, in most circumstances you will not "save" money.
If you reload small quantities, you will be reloading for many years before you recoup any costs before you can even realize savings on your cartridges do to the initial investment costs. But you will get more consistent ammo and not have to visit the store. If you intend to go out and hunt you can load up 5 proven rounds and your good to go. If you want to do some target shooting you can load up 50 rounds and have a good day. With small cartridges (9mm) etc if you buy in small quantities/quality components you might hedge 5% savings or slightly higher at most. If you shoot a large caliber like 30-06, 308, or larger you will save a significant amount. I can roll a high level match grade cartridge for a dollar, where it might cost 3 dollars in store, thats 200%. If you shoot a lot and buy bulk then you will save a crap ton per round but by buying in bulk, your spending much more up front and thus you will tend to shoot more. So your net savings is generally not there. But the key is you can shoot more often for the same cost as factory.
My largest plus for reloading is I can reload the night before I shoot for my needs. No store, no hassle, no idiot sales people.
If you reload small quantities, you will be reloading for many years before you recoup any costs before you can even realize savings on your cartridges do to the initial investment costs. But you will get more consistent ammo and not have to visit the store. If you intend to go out and hunt you can load up 5 proven rounds and your good to go. If you want to do some target shooting you can load up 50 rounds and have a good day. With small cartridges (9mm) etc if you buy in small quantities/quality components you might hedge 5% savings or slightly higher at most. If you shoot a large caliber like 30-06, 308, or larger you will save a significant amount. I can roll a high level match grade cartridge for a dollar, where it might cost 3 dollars in store, thats 200%. If you shoot a lot and buy bulk then you will save a crap ton per round but by buying in bulk, your spending much more up front and thus you will tend to shoot more. So your net savings is generally not there. But the key is you can shoot more often for the same cost as factory.
My largest plus for reloading is I can reload the night before I shoot for my needs. No store, no hassle, no idiot sales people.
