This may have been covered in CGN already but I will post this to give an update. Due to numerous recent requests for availability of reloading equipment, we (along I'm sure with our competitors) have been waiting for reloading equipment deliveries for quite some time. We are almost cleaned out of some of our regular equipment like Dillon, RCBS, Hornady and Lyman. We have back orders in place for most items but due to the unprecedented demand in the USA they are in back order situation. As a example I placed my Hornady order about 2 months ago and was advised the minimum delivery would be 45-60 days but we still haven't seen it. RCBS advised they were over 7000 Rock Chucker presses behind in delivery. We have never seen this back log before and also because of the current interest in reloading in Canada (like the USA) is creating delivery and supply problems. Hopefully we will see our inventory back up where it should be soon. We still have have some items in stock at the present. Phil.
Reloading Equipment Shortage
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Pathfinder
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Northeast Ontario
I called Lee about a month ago for Custom case lenght gauges. Last year they would deliver in 5 weeks. This time they quoted me 5-7 months waiting time......
telesquirt
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fort Frances
And I believe that there is no such thing as large rifle primers out there anymore!-----lots of powder and bullets-----no primers!
Walked into a store a few weeks ago and bought CCI 250 Primers and they had about 15000 left. went to the other store and bought Winchester large rifle primers and they had about 5000 left went to another store and got federal 210 primers they had 2000 left. But your right there probably empty now I just figure I got lucky.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I picked up 3000 primers a couple of weeks ago and still kick myself in the ass that I didn't buy 10K. That'll teach me.
Now to wait for Rick to get his new stock in.
Now to wait for Rick to get his new stock in.
Huh....Not where I shop. I've been looking for the last 6 weeks for even 1 box of 100 Sierra 50 gr Blitz Kings in .224. I just today found a box of 500 online that I won't receive till my buddy from the states brings 'em up here for me (sometime in June)...I guess the 30 I have now will have to be rationed over the next month or so. Still waiting on some H380 that my local gun shop ordered a couple months ago....but I'm not holding my breath on the powder....I will likely switch to Varget and work up some new loads as I found a few lbs of it around town. You are correct about the primers though...none to be found here either....pretty much a
We just got in some RCBS die sets and one!!! Rock Chucker reloading kit ($460) that had been found at the back of a distributors warehouse. We are still waiting for more tools.. We have been getting in odds and ends of bullets, powder and primers. Phil.
blacksmithden
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
NO !!!! ALL of the shortages are Phil's fault !!!!! He's making everyone panic buy !!!
Just kidding of course buddy
I just thank goodness that at least I have all my dies and a few presses already.
What a time to own a company that makes reloading equipment !!!! The worst recession in God knows how long, and you can't get the stuff out the door fast enough !!! Every business owners dream.
Got this a couple of days ago from resoucefulscrounger. Read and weep:
> > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:25 PM
> > Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen: READ & HEED!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings Gentlemen,
> >
> > As you are all probably aware, there is a nationwide shortage of
> > ammunition. This shortage is unprecedented in our history. By
> > working my little part-time job at Bob Moates Sports Shop, I have
> > seen first hand this problem.
> >
> > It all started the day after election day - We had long lines of
> > people buying up every high capacity handgun, assault rifle,
> > assault shotgun, that we had in stock. Along with these sales, our
> > ammunition was flying off of the shelves. We had always prided
> > ourselves by having one of the largest inventories of ammunition in
> > the area and many hard to find obsolete calibers. When we placed
> > huge orders with our suppliers in order to replenish our inventory
> > of arms and ammunition, we were told that the distributors would
> > only be able to send us partial orders and the rest would have to
> > be placed on "back order". As a result, only a few of the high
> > demand arms and ammo started trickling in. Since that time, the
> > supply has completely dried up and the suppliers are not even
> > taking orders - they state that they can't even fill the back
> > orders and have no idea when they can, so there is no sense in
> > placing new orders. We have found ourselves in the position that
> > we have new and used guns in stock but no ammunition to go with
> > them. Our phone is ringing off the hook constantly with people and
> > gun dealers asking about ammunition that we don't have. A lot of
> > gun dealers are now hoarding the few boxes of ammo that they have
> > left so that if a customer buys a new gun, they will at least, be
> > able to sell them one box of ammo. Even our many reloaders, who
> > shoot regularly, are unable to reload their fired casings - rifle
> > and pistol primers dried up and are unavailable. I checked on
> > "gunbroker.com" last night and found individuals with a box or two
> > of .380acp had placed them on the site with starting bids of
> > $50.00-60.00 for one box of ball ammo. A review indicated that
> > even some gun dealers were buying up single boxes for $70.00 -
> > $80.00 per box just to be able to sell new guns that they had in
> > stock. No ammo, no gun sale. And believe it or not, people are
> > paying these prices. Not a bad return on a $10.00 box of ammo
> > purchased before election day!
> >
> > I started digging to try and find out just what is going on. The
> > standard answers being put forward are ridiculous - such as, "The
> > war in Iraq & Afghanistan is taking up all the ammo", "The police
> > and sheriff's departments have now all started special units, such
> > as SWAT etc. and now that they have automatic weapons, they have to
> > practice more and that has created the shortage", "Citizens bought
> > up all of the ammo out of fear of the government". While the last
> > statement has a ring of truth, it doesn't explain why certain types
> > of ammunition isn't coming out of the ammunition plants.
> >
> > Several sources reported from actual employees of Remington and
> > Federal stated that all of these "explanations" were bull s**t.
> > They reported that they had been in operation seven days a week
> > working 12 hour days before the election and that after the
> > election, they were told that they would only be working 8 hr days
> > for five days a week. They also reported that the administration
> > was behind it and using the premise that small caliber pistol
> > ammunition was only being used in very small, concealable, and hard
> > to detect handguns, and as such should be banned. Apparently, they
> > have started with .380 acp, .32 acp, .25acp, and 22 rimfire ammo.
> > The banning of all imported ammo (especially 7.62X39 mm, 5.56, 308
> > win., and even 30MI carbine) has further eroded a citizens ability
> > to acquire ammunition for their weapons.
> > The Obama administration also issued a directive to the Department
> > of Defense to the effect that they were forbidden to sell any fired
> > brass, unless it had been thouroughly chopped up and rendered
> > useless for reloading. This order may have been temporarily
> > rescended, but the overwhelming gist of the matter is to unarm the
> > american citizen and make him totally defenseless and dependent on
> > the socialist regime now in power.
> >
> > My only recommendation at this time would be to acquire what ammo
> > you can, and slow up (or discontinue) burning it up at the range
> > until such time as things turn around. You may well need it to
> > restore our republic. The value of ammo has surpassed the value of
> > gold in just a few months. The guns are worthless without
> > ammunition to feed them!
> >
> > Your obedient servant,
> >
> > John Henry
> > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 1:25 PM
> > Subject: Ladies and Gentlemen: READ & HEED!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings Gentlemen,
> >
> > As you are all probably aware, there is a nationwide shortage of
> > ammunition. This shortage is unprecedented in our history. By
> > working my little part-time job at Bob Moates Sports Shop, I have
> > seen first hand this problem.
> >
> > It all started the day after election day - We had long lines of
> > people buying up every high capacity handgun, assault rifle,
> > assault shotgun, that we had in stock. Along with these sales, our
> > ammunition was flying off of the shelves. We had always prided
> > ourselves by having one of the largest inventories of ammunition in
> > the area and many hard to find obsolete calibers. When we placed
> > huge orders with our suppliers in order to replenish our inventory
> > of arms and ammunition, we were told that the distributors would
> > only be able to send us partial orders and the rest would have to
> > be placed on "back order". As a result, only a few of the high
> > demand arms and ammo started trickling in. Since that time, the
> > supply has completely dried up and the suppliers are not even
> > taking orders - they state that they can't even fill the back
> > orders and have no idea when they can, so there is no sense in
> > placing new orders. We have found ourselves in the position that
> > we have new and used guns in stock but no ammunition to go with
> > them. Our phone is ringing off the hook constantly with people and
> > gun dealers asking about ammunition that we don't have. A lot of
> > gun dealers are now hoarding the few boxes of ammo that they have
> > left so that if a customer buys a new gun, they will at least, be
> > able to sell them one box of ammo. Even our many reloaders, who
> > shoot regularly, are unable to reload their fired casings - rifle
> > and pistol primers dried up and are unavailable. I checked on
> > "gunbroker.com" last night and found individuals with a box or two
> > of .380acp had placed them on the site with starting bids of
> > $50.00-60.00 for one box of ball ammo. A review indicated that
> > even some gun dealers were buying up single boxes for $70.00 -
> > $80.00 per box just to be able to sell new guns that they had in
> > stock. No ammo, no gun sale. And believe it or not, people are
> > paying these prices. Not a bad return on a $10.00 box of ammo
> > purchased before election day!
> >
> > I started digging to try and find out just what is going on. The
> > standard answers being put forward are ridiculous - such as, "The
> > war in Iraq & Afghanistan is taking up all the ammo", "The police
> > and sheriff's departments have now all started special units, such
> > as SWAT etc. and now that they have automatic weapons, they have to
> > practice more and that has created the shortage", "Citizens bought
> > up all of the ammo out of fear of the government". While the last
> > statement has a ring of truth, it doesn't explain why certain types
> > of ammunition isn't coming out of the ammunition plants.
> >
> > Several sources reported from actual employees of Remington and
> > Federal stated that all of these "explanations" were bull s**t.
> > They reported that they had been in operation seven days a week
> > working 12 hour days before the election and that after the
> > election, they were told that they would only be working 8 hr days
> > for five days a week. They also reported that the administration
> > was behind it and using the premise that small caliber pistol
> > ammunition was only being used in very small, concealable, and hard
> > to detect handguns, and as such should be banned. Apparently, they
> > have started with .380 acp, .32 acp, .25acp, and 22 rimfire ammo.
> > The banning of all imported ammo (especially 7.62X39 mm, 5.56, 308
> > win., and even 30MI carbine) has further eroded a citizens ability
> > to acquire ammunition for their weapons.
> > The Obama administration also issued a directive to the Department
> > of Defense to the effect that they were forbidden to sell any fired
> > brass, unless it had been thouroughly chopped up and rendered
> > useless for reloading. This order may have been temporarily
> > rescended, but the overwhelming gist of the matter is to unarm the
> > american citizen and make him totally defenseless and dependent on
> > the socialist regime now in power.
> >
> > My only recommendation at this time would be to acquire what ammo
> > you can, and slow up (or discontinue) burning it up at the range
> > until such time as things turn around. You may well need it to
> > restore our republic. The value of ammo has surpassed the value of
> > gold in just a few months. The guns are worthless without
> > ammunition to feed them!
> >
> > Your obedient servant,
> >
> > John Henry
blacksmithden
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Well THAT just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy with confidence !!!!
Anybody got anything to refute these claims ???
The ammunition companies are publically held entities. The government can't tell them how to operate their business or limit their operations. There are laws against government interference in private/public commerce.
IF the above posting was true we'd have heard about it loud and clear as people would be screaming at the top of their lungs.
IF the above posting was true we'd have heard about it loud and clear as people would be screaming at the top of their lungs.
Well, in the last month, I have purchased powder from Higginsons, primers from WSS and dies and accessories for my 550B from eguns.com in the states, all without any problem or delay.
There is a real shortage going on, but if you shop around a bit, I think you might find out that things aren't really as bad as they are being made out be.
Remember that for many reloading tools, such as dies/presses/scales etc. you can buy all directly from the states, saving both money and hassle.
There is a real shortage going on, but if you shop around a bit, I think you might find out that things aren't really as bad as they are being made out be.
Remember that for many reloading tools, such as dies/presses/scales etc. you can buy all directly from the states, saving both money and hassle.
heavyBullet
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Just off the island of MTL
I been waiting a few weeks for some Sierra bullets from one of the very few places around here that sells them. He tells me I have to keep waiting, yet I called his supplier and he says he has tons. of course the supplier will only sell to dealers not to individuals.
of course the supplier will only sell to dealers not to individuals.
