Reloading for a Browning BLR?

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My friend and his son have a couple od Browning BLRs in 358 Win. I am reloading a few rounds for them. It seems to my the action on these are not all that strong. Is there some sort of rule of thumb to use when reloading for a lever action. I have some factory loads that I will Chrono then I will try to get my hand loads in the same ball park. I have worked up a load starting at near lowest load up to the max. Also I only have one of the guns in my possesion. If anyone who reloads for the guns can give me some tips I would sure be grateful.

George
 
I have and reload for a BLR in 7mm WSM. For this gun my best performance is in about the middle as far as load data goes. Don't really think you have anything to worry about as far as the action goes as long as you don't go over the max load recommendations and watch you OAL.
Hope that helps.
 
As with any rifle you work up the load to max. to suit the rifle. I had no problems with the BLR`s i have had over the years, much stronger action than a 94 win. The 308 i had would take loads just as powerful as the 788 would accept, each rifle has it`s limits even two off the same run of manufacturing. That`s why every reload guide has a start load and you work up to max for your particular rifle. I don`t like to give out my top end loads i use for this very reason.
 
Thanks a lot. I just felt they may be on the weak side that is all. I did start near the bottom and will work my way up. The rifle I have has open sights so I'm just going to chrono the loads to make sure I'm getting some decent speed without getting carried away.

I forgot to mention it is a model 81 BLR if that makes a difference.

Thanks again.
 
I'm a little curious as to why or how you think the BLR has a weak action when they are chambered for the exact same cartridges as bolt guns?

Some people recommend using small base dies when loading for lever or pump action rifles, however, I've never had to use them. All the ammo I've loaded with my Lee dies have works flawlessly thru my various BLRs. Like others have said...start low and work up.
 
My 7-08 BLR likes quicker loads in 120 and 140 grain bullets. groups get tighter.

You do have to seat them a little deeper than you would with a bolt action. At least thats my experience with my BLR.

Cant see why someone would think they are weak actions. They are chambered for some high power rounds. Not sure if they have above .338 magnums, but nobody else chambers 300 win mag and 300 wsm in a lever action.
 
I'm a little curious as to why or how you think the BLR has a weak action when they are chambered for the exact same cartridges as bolt guns?

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I have heard of levers being weak and I just wanted to make sure. If I were to somehow damage my buddies gun I would feel like a real horses a$$.

I am full length sizing as these will be used in two different guns.

Thanks for the replies. I'm feeling more confident about it now.
 
I have heard of levers being weak ...
The BLR bolt locks up like a typical modern bolt action does - so is much stronger than a typical Win or Marlin lever gun. The BLR features a rotating bolt head, just like a bolt-action rifle, for maximum strength and safety
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I had a BLR358 for 16 years before I let it go. As to loads, Charlie38 above gives a very good one IMO. A bit more 358 BLR reading here;
http://gunblast.com/Browning-BLR358.htm
http://archives.gunsandammo.com/content/the-great-358
 
This is a load I have used with no issues with
my BLR81 358win.
51 grains of IMR 4320
Hornady 200 InterLock RN
I have used this on targets and groups well.
 
My friend and his son have a couple od Browning BLRs in 358 Win.
As you've already been informed, these rifles are chambered for modern high power rifle rounds operating at the upper end of the pressure ranges you see in the CIP/SAAMI tables. The actions are built to operate at those pressures - they aren't downgraded for low pressure older cartridges (which the 358 Winchester isn't in the first place). So if it is in the reloading manuals, it should be safe in any generic rifle of any kind factory chambered to 358 Winchester.

I loved my Leeper-built custom 358 Win BLR (wanted one in the time Browning wasn't making them). Then my wife fell in love with it and simply declared it was hers for life... so I think I need one of the new takedown versions...

Anyways, I think the Barnes TTSX, 200 grain version, is the best all round 358 Winchester load. The 180 grain version shoots marginally faster, but the higher BC of the 200 grainer overcomes the slower start once you start to get out to longer ranges anyways.

Looking at the loading data I got from Ramshot, I am using 47.0 grains of X-Terminator with a Federal Primer in Winchester brass with the Barnes 200 gr TTSX BT. It chronos at just over 2600 fps, and I think is about the maximum recommended load for that bullet and that powder in the 358 Win.

Going from memory, you end up with a point blank range of about 300 yards, about 18" low at 400 yards with about 1600 ft/lbs of remaining energy. Pretty much in the ball park of what you'd get out of a 30/06 with a 200 grain bullet over the same distance. In other words, hardly a mere "close range bush cartridge".

The wife neither knows nor cares anything about the numbers and ballistics. What she knows is every elk, moose, and mule deer she's pointed it at has pretty much gone down at the shot. And besides, she thinks it is really cool to hunt gophers with it all summer using 158 gr SWC lead bullets pushed by a few grains of Red Dot to about 950 fps... and those loads don't break the bank.
 
I have to use a small base die for my BLR (.308) - regular FL dies won't resize brass to chamber reliably. the SB die (RCBS) works great. YMMV.

I used to load ammo for a pair of BLR rifles.One was a 308 and like yours this rifle would not tolerate ammo loaded with standard dies.I had to use the small base dies for it.The other BLR was in 358 and it handled brass out of a standard set of dies without a whimper.The dies I used for both rifles were RCBS.
 
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