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hey was just surfing through the social jungle and started seeing guys complaining about shooting reloads from glocks and having them blow up.
Is this standard knowledge or just personal experiences.
Wanted to start reloading to help cut ammo costs down and started hearing this info and now am second guessing .
Are all the handguns susceptible or it is just Glocks and the way they are built?
Am shopping for first gun and want to pick right one or at least know what I am in for once purchased
Any info is greatly appreciated as always as we look to this web site for alot of our info and knowledge about where we want to go with the sport. 8)
 
It is absolutely NOT a concern....some would speculate this can happen because glocks have unsupported chambers, or relatively unsupported chambers.

I've shot 10s of thousands of reloads though my glock with no issues. As always, work up a load, watch for pressure signs, use a chrony and you'll be okay. If you're loading lead projectiles, clean the barrel more than you otherwise would,.
 
it's all fairy tales and hokum, any gun can blow up if improperly loaded for just a matter of reading up on the reloading process and understanding what your doing.

i shoot lead rounds through my factory glock barrel which is not recommended by glock and some people, but if you know what your doing and keep an eye on things all will be good.

get some reloading manuals and start reading! the ABC's of reloading, lyman 49th edition, lee's manual, etc etc.
 
that's what I thought I mean there is enough info out there to be somewhat trouble free
and since posting last saw some reasons why glock failures and it is because of possible hot loads and also lack of chamber support so I guess if you reload looking for another barrel with some better support will lessen the chance provided all else is equal of a kaboom.
and proper precautions on a regular basis with the loading process
thanks Onagoth and Spawn -Inc for the info
I will be on and off this forum for more educational questions/answers
 
I am going to disagree with the previous comments.

The Glock kaboom stories have been around long enough, coming from enough different directions and accompanied by enough different photos, that I don't think there is any question Glocks have an elevated risk of spontaeous disassembly compared to other makes. All models and generations were not created equally, so I put no stock whatsoever into the fact that Onagoth and Spawn-Inc have reloaded for their personal Glocks and not had troubles. This is equivalent to somebody pointing to their 80 year old, chain smoking uncle and claiming that because smoking hasn't killed him, smoking is not harmful to anyone. The fact is that smoking has killed a lot of people, and a lot of Glocks have detonated in peoples hands.

Note that most of the Glocks that have kaboomed have done so with factory ammo, indicating that the guns themselves are the source of the problem. But there is ample reason to suggest that using reloaded ammunition or cast bullets are factors that increase the risk, particularly if you don't know to monitor or recognize pressure signs. So Glock does what any sensible manufacturer would do in this day and age: they tell you not to. Whether or not you choose to follow that recomendation is up to you.
 
BattleRife said:
I am going to disagree with the previous comments.

The Glock kaboom stories have been around long enough, coming from enough different directions and accompanied by enough different photos, that I don't think there is any question Glocks have an elevated risk of spontaeous disassembly compared to other makes. All models and generations were not created equally, so I put no stock whatsoever into the fact that Onagoth and Spawn-Inc have reloaded for their personal Glocks and not had troubles. This is equivalent to somebody pointing to their 80 year old, chain smoking uncle and claiming that because smoking hasn't killed him, smoking is not harmful to anyone. The fact is that smoking has killed a lot of people, and a lot of Glocks have detonated in peoples hands.

Note that most of the Glocks that have kaboomed have done so with factory ammo, indicating that the guns themselves are the source of the problem. But there is ample reason to suggest that using reloaded ammunition or cast bullets are factors that increase the risk, particularly if you don't know to monitor or recognize pressure signs. So Glock does what any sensible manufacturer would do in this day and age: they tell you not to. Whether or not you choose to follow that recomendation is up to you.
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There is no way this opinion is supported by factual evidence...for example, please provide evidence that most kabooms are from factory ammo....

Don't forget, even if glock kabooms are more prevalent that other guns, it could very well be because glock is one of the most popular selling pistols.
 
I don't know the exact numbers but there is a crap ton of Glocks out there so you need to look at the percentages of failures and not the numbers. Even if they do kaboom more then other guns, the chances of it happening are not near high enough for me to worry about it.
 
the experts are saying not to use it as this is where they blow out because of lack of chamber support
lots if video on youtube to back this up some are even live blow ups
scary even if you resize brass it becomes compromised at that point
 
Smcx said:
All I know is that the .40 brass I get, that's been through a glock, has a good bulge in it near the base.
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The 40 brass that I shoot thru my G22 typically has a bulge to it. Easy enough to fix (Lee Bulge buster) but 2 extra steps required: 1) check each case that's been shot from my G22 for any bulge (I keep that brass separate from the 40 I shoot thru my JR Carbine) and 2) use the bulge buster step on any that don't fit in the case gauge.
 
archer1 said:
the experts are saying not to use it as this is where they blow out because of lack of chamber support
lots if video on youtube to back this up some are even live blow ups
scary even if you resize brass it becomes compromised at that point
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Which experts?

Virtually all firearms warranties are voided when you use handloaded ammo. And all firearms manufacturers I know of expressly disclaim any liability associated with reloaded ammo, whether or not the pistol has a 'supported' chamber.

I might suggest that if this is the kind of thing that bothers you, reloading is probably not for you.
 
only the glock 40 from previous generation,and even then, it's more about shooting lead +not cleaning the mess it induce regularly + the lack of support of glock barrels in the previous production runs which is not true anymore since the more recent production 40 barrel now shows a little more support of the rear end of the case.

all this is inflated urban myths. the only thing to have in check, is the cases picked up at the range, just making sure there's no dents-cracks at the base of the cases .

i don't reload my 40 cases more than 6-7 times ,that way i keep the myth at bay , but i know many,many shooters who don't care at all and they reload their cases 10 times and even more without any problems, but then again, doing the regular maintenance is crucial, not only for the 40 glocks, but for any guns anyways.
 
I should not use the word expert
as what I really mean to say is those that have had it happened to, and have seen it happen , first hand
and after a bit of investigative searching said the gun barrel lacked support which you could see in the film
That being said you cannot see how well the gun was treated or taken care of from the video
 
If any firearm "blows up" from shooting reloaded ammo it's caused by operator failure. Reloading is as safe as anything can get, if you read the books and pay attention to what you're doing. Won't save you any money though.
There ain't no experts on Youtube.
 
Lee says the bulge buster does not hurt the brass and I've never had any issue with a case run thru it. Case gauges are available in just about any size.
 
thanks kb007 I will have to invest once I start
and I am assuming sunray is kidding when he says won't save money as i have figured you could reload 38's for about 5-6 bucks a box
 
archer1 said:
thanks kb007 I will have to invest once I start
and I am assuming sunray is kidding when he says won't save money as i have figured you could reload 38's for about 5-6 bucks a box
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while you do save money, you usually just shot alot more ammo and end up spending the same amount of money or more.

but otherwise, don't put a whole lot of weight to what sunray says. i'm under the impression he is a spambot that never responds to any comments good or bad.
 
You can safely reload for Glock pistols but you need to check your brass very carefully as it will bulge due to the unsupported chamber and will fatigue after fewer loadings than other pistols.
The reason you shouldn't shoot lead through a factory Glock barrel is because of the polygonal rifling which if the lead is allowed to build up can cause higher pressures but it takes hundreds of rounds for this to become a problem so just clean your barrel properly after every day at the range if you are not shooting jacketed bullets.

I hand prime all my cases which gives me a good opportunity to inspect each piece of brass and I throw out any brass that is even slightly questionable.

Glock like many manufacturers will void your warranty if you shoot reloads through the pistol. It is not just a Glock thing and it is their way of avoiding lawsuits from people who blow up their pistol and try to sue them.

If you are a serious handloader and want to run pretty much only handloads then a quality aftermarket barrel with a supported chamber and traditional rifling if you don't like jacketing is probably a good idea.

Play safe
 
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