Reloading Issue

I doubt you are using 6.5 Creedmore dies.

Maybe they are Creedmoor?

If you adjust so the die hits the shell holder and then 2 more turns, there is no way the neck is not sized, unless:

You are using the wrong die. You should be using the FL die.

And it must be for the 6.5 Creedmoor, and not some other caliber.
 
Ganderite said:
I doubt you are using 6.5 Creedmore dies.

Maybe they are Creedmoor?

If you adjust so the die hits the shell holder and then 2 more turns, there is no way the neck is not sized, unless:

You are using the wrong die. You should be using the FL die.

And it must be for the 6.5 Creedmoor, and not some other caliber.
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In his original post he said he’s resizing the neck only.
Is that even possible, turning a die in two full turns?
 
I think the confusion is stemming from what kind of die he's using.

I think he is using one of those 4 die Lee sets that has a standard Full length sizing die and a Lee Collet neck sizing die.

The collet is adjusted by turning the die in about two turns to squeeze the neck with the collet against the mandrel. It squeezes the ne3ck from the sides. The final internal diameter is determined by the diameter of the mandrel and the springback of the brass. With some cases you simply can't get enough bullet tension with a Lee collet die. The only answer is to get a smaller mandrel from Lee.

The collet die usually only sizes the neck about .001" smaller than nominal bullet diameter. When it works it works great because it works the brass much less and it's dead nuts straight but if the neck tension is too little your stuck.

The OP needs to use the full length sizer and just back it off a bit to neck size only.
 
We have a winner. Not using enough force.
So just to recap:
Hornady Cases
Hornady Bullets
Lee ultimate rifle set - 6.5 Creedmoor dies
Frankford Arsnal Press
Using the collet neck sizer, from directions Adjustment for other brands; Screw collet neck sizing die in until it makes firm contact with the shell holder, plus 2 MORE TURNS.(Lee used capitals for last part also)

All this equals a newbie being to gentle and not wanting to break anything.

Thank you all for all the comments and suggestions, I figure I will learn something new each time.
 
If you are only using the collet neck sizer die just make sure you chamber some brass to make sure the shoulders dont need a bump before loading up 50 rounds you cant close your bolt on....
 
mikeelliot said:
If you are only using the collet neck sizer die just make sure you chamber some brass to make sure the shoulders dont need a bump before loading up 50 rounds you cant close your bolt on....
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This is a huge piece of advice for newbies. I once made 50 .270 rounds and was all proud of myself for making nice looking and good quality ammo. D’oh forgot to check to OAL against my rifle and the bolt wouldn't close without excessive force. Thankfully I hadn’t crimped these rounds yet and could still change the OAL but I find newbies like myself get so excited to make ammo we can miss a step that prevents our ammo from chambering.
 
For those wondering about turning the die in 2 full turns after contacting the shell holder- Lee recommends doing this with the collet neck sizer in order to avoid the cam-over that is built into some presses. Cam over can put too much stress on the collet and destroy the die, and it also makes it impossible to get a feel for the 20 lbs of force needed to properly size the neck.
 
Yes once fired from my own rifle. I can use this die for this reload and then use the full size on the next round reload.

new210/22 said:
FULL STOP! This is once fired brass, but not from your rifle, correct? Please, do a full length resize and fireform to YOUR rifle. Neck size after that.
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And it follows that if you ever have more than one rifle in such a calibre, you VERY carefully keep the batches of brass for each rifle separated so that after neck sizing and reloading, it's going back to the SAME rifle.
 
Lots of good advice here. Feel free to post more on here or PM any of the guys in here with questions.

Let us know your results
 
coyoteking said:
For those wondering about turning the die in 2 full turns after contacting the shell holder- Lee recommends doing this with the collet neck sizer in order to avoid the cam-over that is built into some presses. Cam over can put too much stress on the collet and destroy the die, and it also makes it impossible to get a feel for the 20 lbs of force needed to properly size the neck.
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It took me a couple reads of your post to figure it out. I think what you're saying is that by turning the die down two full turns after contact with the shell holder, you can't cam the press over at all. That forces you to do all the sizing on the initial down stroke of the lever, correct?
The reason I'm asking is to get it straight in my own mind, and also to underline to the OP that if this is the case, he can't force the lever all the way to the bottom without breaking something.
 
Chilly807 said:
It took me a couple reads of your post to figure it out. I think what you're saying is that by turning the die down two full turns after contact with the shell holder, you can't cam the press over at all. That forces you to do all the sizing on the initial down stroke of the lever, correct?
The reason I'm asking is to get it straight in my own mind, and also to underline to the OP that if this is the case, he can't force the lever all the way to the bottom without breaking something.
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Yes, you got it.
 
budmancan said:
Yes once fired from my own rifle. I can use this die for this reload and then use the full size on the next round reload.
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Depending on how hot you load your ammo, you can neck size a number of loads before needing to full length size.

Before loading, try a few empties int he chamber. if the bolt will close without too much effort, just neck size.
 
Ganderite said:
Depending on how hot you load your ammo, you can neck size a number of loads before needing to full length size.

Before loading, try a few empties int he chamber. if the bolt will close without too much effort, just neck size.
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For now I am going to stick on the lower end. But I will try a few different load recipes to see what the gun likes.

Again thank you everybody.
 
budmancan said:
We have a winner. Not using enough force.
So just to recap:
Hornady Cases
Hornady Bullets
Lee ultimate rifle set - 6.5 Creedmoor dies
Frankford Arsnal Press
Using the collet neck sizer, from directions Adjustment for other brands; Screw collet neck sizing die in until it makes firm contact with the shell holder, plus 2 MORE TURNS.(Lee used capitals for last part also)

All this equals a newbie being to gentle and not wanting to break anything.

Thank you all for all the comments and suggestions, I figure I will learn something new each time.
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Glad it worked out. It did sound like you were using the collet die.

As others have suggested, you may want to switch to the full-length die to ensure that the case and neck are completely re-sized for now.

Remember to trim the case length back below maximum AFTER re-sizing, as the full-length re-sizing process will elongate the case due to brass flow during resizing.

Keep us posted as to your progress, and keep the questions coming - that's how we (and others) keep learning!
 
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