reloads do not fit the chamber
- Thread starter drslav
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it is the norc that did this..but why the die set should correct it
did not lube inside neck when sizing..did trim case after sizing
- Location
- Vancouver Island, BC
Sorry I meant chamber it in the rifle. But it sounds like you figured it out regardless.
However, the die should fix it with one pass.
Lower your ram, screw in the die till it touches the shellholder (nice and snug) And then screw in the die a full half turn. Lower the die nice and slow and make sure it cams over... Should do the trick.
Nothing wrong with two passes though. You could always give it one pass, turn the case half a turn then give it another.
I have never lubed the outside of a neck only abit on a Q tip to do the inside.
Either you dont have the die set up right in the press , it is defective or your chamber is cut to short.
My guess is you have a bad die I have resized for most every popular cartrige out there and never seen this with a properly set up die,are you using the right shellholder it isn't to thick maybe.
Either you dont have the die set up right in the press , it is defective or your chamber is cut to short.
My guess is you have a bad die I have resized for most every popular cartrige out there and never seen this with a properly set up die,are you using the right shellholder it isn't to thick maybe.
With a lee full length rezizing die, you just screw the die down until the shellholder hits the bottom of the die. They don't really adjust :S
I' dhave to say that the problem is that the bullets aren't seated far enough. Try this:
Resize and decap a piece of brass and set it aside while resizing the rest. Before you start loading up, seat a bullet into one of your resized cases without primer or powder, but leave the die backed out so that it does NOT crimp. Start out with what you think will be too long. Try chambering it in the rifle. If the bolt doesn't close, turn down the bullet seating plug (but NOT the die) a half turn, push the bullet in further, and try again. Do this until you can JUST BARELYclose the bolt. Measure with a caliper, and WRITE IT DOWN. Now, seat the bullet .002 deeper or so so that the bolt closes easily. This will probably be as close to optimal overall length for you to shoot with that particular bullet.
Back the bullet seater out and run your dummy round up into the seating die. screw it down until you feel the die make contact with the brass. Back off the cartridge and turn the die down about 1/4 to 1/2 turn and lock it in place with the lock nut. Put the ram in the fully upwards position and crimp the bullet in place, then screw the bullet seater down until it contacts the nose of the bullet. Now you can keep this dummy round to set up your seating die again, or if you lose it, you have the overall length written down for next time. You will have to go through this process each time you try a new bullet.
drslav
With a full length resizing die it is possible to make the cartridge case "longer" than it was after firing. You are squeezing the brass case and the only direction the brass can move is "upward" thus pushing the shoulder higher.
With the die bottomed out and touching the shell holder the shoulder of the cartridge case should be pushed back to .002 shorter than minimum headspace.
You have the die adjusted approximately .001 - .002 to high and it is not pushing the shoulder back far enough. When you apply the extra case lube it is being compressed and flowing on to the shoulder of the case and the film of lube is pushing the shoulder back just enough to chamber the round.
The tools below are used for adjusting your dies for the correct amount of resizing and only pushing the shoulder back .001 - .002.
Only once in 40 years of reloading on a European made rifle with a very tight chamber, I had to remove .003 from the top of a shell holder in order to full length resize cases for this rifle. If I did not use this modified shell holder the resized cases would not fit in the chamber because they were too long. NOTE: In the majority of cases if you set the full length resizing die as per the instructions and fully bottomed out you will be pushing the shoulder of the case back too far. That is why they make the headspace shims and custom "taller" shell holders above.
With a full length resizing die it is possible to make the cartridge case "longer" than it was after firing. You are squeezing the brass case and the only direction the brass can move is "upward" thus pushing the shoulder higher.
With the die bottomed out and touching the shell holder the shoulder of the cartridge case should be pushed back to .002 shorter than minimum headspace.
You have the die adjusted approximately .001 - .002 to high and it is not pushing the shoulder back far enough. When you apply the extra case lube it is being compressed and flowing on to the shoulder of the case and the film of lube is pushing the shoulder back just enough to chamber the round.
The tools below are used for adjusting your dies for the correct amount of resizing and only pushing the shoulder back .001 - .002.
Only once in 40 years of reloading on a European made rifle with a very tight chamber, I had to remove .003 from the top of a shell holder in order to full length resize cases for this rifle. If I did not use this modified shell holder the resized cases would not fit in the chamber because they were too long. NOTE: In the majority of cases if you set the full length resizing die as per the instructions and fully bottomed out you will be pushing the shoulder of the case back too far. That is why they make the headspace shims and custom "taller" shell holders above.
