Rem 597 vs Rueger 10/22
- Thread starter mgcolley
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Depends what you are going to do with it. If you plain on upgrading it, the 10/22 has more options, however if you are going to keep it stock and look to do no mods, my bet would be the 597!
I'd love to get a center balanced system bullpup stock for the 597 but it's progibated here! Gurrr darn red tape!!!!!!!!
I'd love to get a center balanced system bullpup stock for the 597 but it's progibated here! Gurrr darn red tape!!!!!!!!
BlazinDayz
Regular
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- Niverville, MB
Do you like tinkering and $ to burn, get the 10/22. If modding the trigger is all the work you foresee, get the 597.
If you want the gun to jam, FTF or FTE, get the 597. Certainly they are totally unreliable with anything other than the factory mag. The 25 rnd mags for the 597 are useless. The 597 is marginally more accurate out of the box. Everything else about the 10/22 is superior.
I have both the aforementioned rifles, the 597 is noticeably heavier, and at least in my case out of the box much more accurate than my 10/22.
Having said that I much prefer my 10/22 for several reasons; upgrades, reliability, and fun! You can spend a fortune tuning and replacing every component of the 10/22 if you wish or just leave it in its standard configuration for a great rifle, the 597 has a much smaller list of upgrades for purchase but out of the box I found it quite a bit more accurate, others milage may vary.
In terms of reliability I would always reach for my 10/22, it eats any ammunition I feed it, it rarely if ever has a malfunction even when wet, cold and dirty my 597 on the other hand I couldn't count on to make it through a 10 round magazine, also I had several run away firings with it even when properly cleaned and maintained.
I was in your position and opted for the 597, and then a month later went back and purchased a 10/22, and it hasn't disappointed me yet! Of course these are just my experiences and opinions, hope it helped.
Having said that I much prefer my 10/22 for several reasons; upgrades, reliability, and fun! You can spend a fortune tuning and replacing every component of the 10/22 if you wish or just leave it in its standard configuration for a great rifle, the 597 has a much smaller list of upgrades for purchase but out of the box I found it quite a bit more accurate, others milage may vary.
In terms of reliability I would always reach for my 10/22, it eats any ammunition I feed it, it rarely if ever has a malfunction even when wet, cold and dirty my 597 on the other hand I couldn't count on to make it through a 10 round magazine, also I had several run away firings with it even when properly cleaned and maintained.
I was in your position and opted for the 597, and then a month later went back and purchased a 10/22, and it hasn't disappointed me yet! Of course these are just my experiences and opinions, hope it helped.
hmm thanks, I dont plan on spending money upgrading, as I have no money, but it wont be used in adverse conditions, jsut to be used in a small handgun range for target practice, here in Canada we can only load 5 in the magazine at a time, so will I really need to worry about the jamming? how bad is it's jamming issues...
rustysdream
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Any jamming is "bad" and I'm also in Canada and can load full legal mags at my range. In addition, this gun can be used on private land and crown land provided shooting is legal. I had a 597 & sold it after the first time out. It jammed every 3-9 rounds. I once got excited when I made it through an entire mag without a failure. The 10/22, on the other hand, can go through 300-500 rounds with after-market mags without a failure...You decide
BlazinDayz
Regular
- Location
- Niverville, MB
A VQ extractor should fix any FTE issues.
Also in Canada the 5rnd limit only applies to most centerfire rifles, not rimfires.
ahh yes I should have remembered that. hmmm I keep hearing some people with jam issues and others with none, ahh big decisions! Im thinking it will be the boxing day sales that dictate my choice..
Yes, I have heard of a few cases where the 597 worked well. Would I bet my $200 on it??? No way...
Haha oh goodness, what a gamble, hmm what are the warranties like, would they cover jamming issues?
BlazinDayz
Regular
- Location
- Niverville, MB
Decisions decisions... $150 for the 597 and it may jam, or $230 for the 10/22 and it may shoot with reasonable precision. My take is that the chances of finding a 597 that has jamming issues are as likely as finding a 10/22 that shoots accurately, odds are in your favor.
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- Ontario Windsor area
I had close to the same decision to make. 597, Marlin 60ss, 795, or 10/22. Eliminated 597 and Marlin 795, I'd rather spend my time on shooting targets reliably and not wasting ammo, than trying to fix feeding issues. I'm a newbie and just my thoughts. 10/22 with a 25round mag took first place and hopefully a Marlin 60ss in the future.
I'm as big a sucker for stuff that's written here as anyone else is... At least sometimes... It seems like more people have complained about the Remington 597 then I expected to hear (read). And if there is a fix for the common problems that the 597 typically faces... Let's get some pics up here that show where the problem is and what the fix is. If the proposed solutions appear convincing enough to calm the pangs in my stomach,(related to the reports of un-reliability) Then I'll go and get a 597 in 22 mag and extend the range of fun I have had with my Rugger 10-22.
Most if not all of the 597's problems can be fixed easily by you. loosen off the guide rail bolt screws and your good to go. If you should still encounter the odd stovepipe then change out the extractor for the VQ one and your miles ahead of any 10/22.
I'm currently "down" to about a dozen .22's. I have no desire to dress any of them like a barbie doll.
Function is important to me. I love my 597...I find the hi-cap mags to be "clunky" but don't have any of the feed issues described here. I don't really have any feed issues with it at all. Good weight (for a .22), accurate and, honestly, the 2 guide rail system makes for a silky bolt.
I won't tolerate a 10/22 on the premises...my experiences with those have been terrible! Again, I don't feel the need to dress up the rifle and, find having to add bits, just to make it function on-par with current offerings, repugnant.
Function is important to me. I love my 597...I find the hi-cap mags to be "clunky" but don't have any of the feed issues described here. I don't really have any feed issues with it at all. Good weight (for a .22), accurate and, honestly, the 2 guide rail system makes for a silky bolt.
I won't tolerate a 10/22 on the premises...my experiences with those have been terrible! Again, I don't feel the need to dress up the rifle and, find having to add bits, just to make it function on-par with current offerings, repugnant.
