Rem 700 SPS stainless or 700 XCR?

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Seems these rifles are very near identical except the xcr has "trinite" coating on the stainless.Is it worth $300.00 more than the sps though? I am wanting to sell a couple of wood/blue guns to pay for a "weather proof" gun for blacktail hunting here on the coast. Right now I am thinking SPS stainless may be the way to go.
 
RE: Rem 700SPS stainless or 700XCR

I just aquired a 700XCR in 375H&H 2 weeks ago. The gun it replaced was a wood blue .338 Ruger MKII. I also just wanted a all weather gun but the .375caliber and the price I liked the most about the XCR. Comparing it to the Sako's and Weatherbys the XCR I think is a great gun in terms of comfort to shoot and the price. Depending on what caliber you want either gun will work well. I found that the SPS just felt to slippery, where as the XCR has the Hogue overmoulded grips and the fancy Tri-nite coating to prevent rust. Also the SPS wasn't available in the caliber I wanted. I am a happy owner of a XCR and if you get one you won't be dissipointed.
 
Xcaribouer,
Unless Remington has changed their ways, their stainless guns aren't entirely made out of stainless steel. I had a 700 BDL Stainless that turned red in a lot of places after getting "Truck Gun" duty for a winter. I never had a blued gun rust in the same circumstances, but they usually got a G96 treatment somewhere along the line.
The Stainless SPS is a smoking deal, inspite of the tupperware stock and need to treat it like a blued gun.. Many guys are buying them for the action and parting everything else out they're so cheap. It seems like the SPSs shoot just as well or better than the more expensive Remingtons too.
Dogleg
 
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hey whats up with remington for 2007, looks like sps models are all gone except for a new model called sps varmint.........also looks like the one year old 799 off shore mauser is gone as well, along with adl's.......anyone know whats up??
 
From http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=971

Grade 416 has the highest machinability of any stainless steel, at about 85% of that of a free-machining carbon steel. As for most other free-machining stainless steels the improvement in machinability is achieved by addition of sulphur which forms manganese sulphide inclusions; this sulphur addition also lowers the corrosion resistance, weldability and formability to below that of its non-free machining equivalent Grade 410.

If you read further, you'll find that 416 stainless suceptibility to rusting is really not rainwater, but sal####er. If you hunt in New Bruswick with brackish and salwater spray along the coast, you'll want XCR for sure. Here in Ontario, I have had no problems with Stainless.

I do plan on hunting with family in New Brusnwick so for this reason I just picked up the XCR in .270 for $899 at BassPro. Me thinks it's pretty.
 
Many years ago I cut 2 1/2" off my .416 barrel and left it out in the garden over the winter. Not a hint of rust, it was a stainless Douglas. They may rust but it would take some serious abuse to do so.
 
Oh yes, the XCR is absolutely required if you're "extreme (as in XCR)", just hope my regular stainless that I have been hunting with since 1992 for goat, sheep, elk, bear etc. doesn't hear about the new trinite, because it will likely rust and fall apart upon realizing it is just regular SS. Darn, I guess I now have to replace my SS if I still wanna be "Extreme"

Thank goodness Remington thought of trinite...phew..rejoice...now I can sleep at night..:runaway:
 
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dpopl8r said:
Oh yes, the XCR is absolutely required if you're "extreme (as in XCR)", just hope my regular stainless that I have been hunting with since 1992 for goat, sheep, elk, bear etc. doesn't hear about the new trinite, because it will likely rust and fall apart upon realizing it is just regular SS. Darn, I guess I now have to replace my SS if I still wanna be "Extreme"

Thank goodness Remington thought of trinite...phew..rejoice...now I can sleep at night..:runaway:
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There are different grades of SS as noted by drvrage but i guess some of use no about SS and others do'nt.
 
dpopl8r said:
Oh yes, the XCR is absolutely required if you're "extreme (as in XCR)", just hope my regular stainless that I have been hunting with since 1992 for goat, sheep, elk, bear etc. doesn't hear about the new trinite, because it will likely rust and fall apart upon realizing it is just regular SS. Darn, I guess I now have to replace my SS if I still wanna be "Extreme"

Thank goodness Remington thought of trinite...phew..rejoice...now I can sleep at night..:runaway:
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There are different grades of SS as noted by (drvrage) but i guess some of us no about SS and others do'nt want to learn.
 
MTM said:
Many years ago I cut 2 1/2" off my .416 barrel and left it out in the garden over the winter. Not a hint of rust, it was a stainless Douglas. They may rust but it would take some serious abuse to do so.
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I had a rifle stolen form my home, a Ruger MKII 7RM.

I found it a year later, hidden behind a bush. It had been snowed on, rained on and baked for a year, and the only rust was a bit of spotting on the Timney trigger, which came off easy.:dancingbanana:
 
Agreed on the marketing ploy. As the XCR finish probably is. However, legitimate sources say it is not to rust proof it against normal water or moisture, because stainless is glorious in wet weather, it is Chlorine (i.e. sal####er) that causes stainless to rust. I think the only legitimate purpose for XCR is if you plan on hunting near saltmarshes or coastlines. Of course the marketing won't say that, because remington wants Ontarians like me to buy anyways. If the worst weather you'll see is Lake Superior, I think you'd be better off with SPS stainless.

Are their any coastal people who've has a splish splash of brackish water on their stainless would like to testify; for or against?


Also, while I have never shot the SPS, the triger on my XCR feels to me like it "breaks like glass" The is no wiggle anywhere. Nothing side to side, no uptake or after the shot. Feels very crispy to me. Granted I'm still inexperienced with rilfes, but I'm very impressed so far, it is very confidence inspiring. When I get back from my business trip and get to run my new toy through its paces, I'll report back on accuracy.

What is the trigger like on other remington in factory conditions? ANyone?
 
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