Rem 700 very stiff to chamber a round

So I kind of put this project on the backburner but I'm sick of it sitting in the safe.

I ended up ordering a pair of extractors from PTG, took a while but finally they arrived.

It certainly seems to be isolated to the extractor, with it removed it chambers dummy rounds I made easily, closes on a go gauge, doesn't on a no-go.

Popped a new extractor in, finally brought it out to the range last night. It's much better than it was, however it's still stiff jumping over the rim and leaves an obvious mark on the rim where the extractor snaps over on 3 different brands of brass.

Wondering if maybe the extractor recess is a little out of spec, seems I wouldn't be the first person to have this concern with a small bolt face 700.

Anyone have any recommendations on a smith to take it from here? Bonus points for somewhere somewhat local (SW Ont)
 
The extractor may need to be adjusted. If the hook is protruding out too far, it takes more force snap the hook over the rim.
 
guntech said:
Please elaborate on that statement...
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the throat is for this very purpose.
OPs new problem sounds like it can be solved by using a small file or minor adjustment but who can know what exactly it is without looking
id probably just shoot it. it will wear
 
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hoobdydyadad said:
the throat is for this very purpose and it’s more important in a rifle.
OPs new problem sounds like it can be solved by using a small file or minor adjustment but who can know what exactly it is without looking
id probably just shoot it. it will wear
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Just in case you haven't tried "filing" an extractor, they are HARD and will as likely as not just ruin a good file.

You could "stone" the offending edges to smooth them, but there also may be another issue with the extractor assembly. Remington 700 extractor.

They're pretty simple for the most part, and not much can go wrong with them.
 
hoobdydyadad said:
the throat is for this very purpose and it’s more important in a rifle.
OPs new problem sounds like it can be solved by using a small file or minor adjustment but who can know what exactly it is without looking
id probably just shoot it. it will wear
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I did not say to fire the chambered round. It was to inspect if the throat marked the bullet...

"With a loaded round smoke the bullet so it is covered in soot... chamber and withdraw... is it marked up from the rifling?"

How can this procedure blow up the rifle?
 
Be careful when forcing that bolt closed, I’ve seen a couple of bolt handles that were snapped off due to it being forced open ,so I suspect it wouldn’t take much.
 
guntech said:
I did not say to fire the chambered round. It was to inspect if the throat marked the bullet...

"With a loaded round smoke the bullet so it is covered in soot... chamber and withdraw... is it marked up from the rifling?"

How can this procedure blow up the rifle?
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either way i think the brass would prevent the bullet being jammed into the throat unless the ammo is really bad
a diamond file or dremel works on the extractor
 
hoobdydyadad said:
either way i think the brass would prevent the bullet being jammed into the throat unless the ammo is really bad
a diamond file or dremel works on the extractor
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I stated "With a loaded round smoke the bullet so it is covered in soot... chamber and withdraw... is it marked up from the rifling?"

You said "if it did the gun would explode upon firing…"

You have been asked more than once, how can the above procedure blow up the rifle? You avoid answering. Why not just avoid this thread with your nonsense.

Smoking a bullet and chambering a round to check the throat is one popular way of checking bullet engagment used by reloaders ever since reloading started. Rifles do not explode during this procedure.
 
Thank you all for your replies.

Bullet is no where near rifling/jammed, I've marked up dummy rounds I made to check for any tightspots/contact area, it also occurs with freshly sized brass with no bullet, as well as checked headspace.

I've seen several mentions of adjusting the extractor, is this basically just knocking the edge back with a file or similar tool?

I do have another new extractor left. I previously made sure they are no burrs and thoroughly cleaned the extractor groove.
 
The extractor is a C-shaped spring clip. It is self retained and self tensioned in the groove surrounding the bolt face counter bore. If the "C" is too flat it may protrude too far into the counterbore, in such a manner that it blocks the case head instead of easily snapping over the rim. The extractor can be adjusted by slightly bending it as necessary. Warning: go easy - it can also be snapped in the process. When working on the extractor, remove the ejector. This will make it easier to remove and install the extractor.
 
tiriaq said:
The extractor is a C-shaped spring clip. It is self retained and self tensioned in the groove surrounding the bolt face counter bore. If the "C" is too flat it may protrude too far into the counterbore, in such a manner that it blocks the case head instead of easily snapping over the rim. The extractor can be adjusted by slightly bending it as necessary. Warning: go easy - it can also be snapped in the process. When working on the extractor, remove the ejector. This will make it easier to remove and install the extractor.
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Some brass is very "flat" on the edge... If this 'flat' hits a 'flat' on the extractor, it can stop cold with a failure to chamber. Skillful use of a dremel can round these two "edges and make it much easier to chamber.

Take the bolt out of the action, try pushing a round straight onto the bolt face... that should show where the problem lies. A flat edge on the bolt? On the extractor? On the brass? Somewhere?
 
guntech said:
I stated "With a loaded round smoke the bullet so it is covered in soot... chamber and withdraw... is it marked up from the rifling?"

You said "if it did the gun would explode upon firing…"

You have been asked more than once, how can the above procedure blow up the rifle? You avoid answering. Why not just avoid this thread with your nonsense.

Smoking a bullet and chambering a round to check the throat is one popular way of checking bullet engagment used by reloaders ever since reloading started. Rifles do not explode during this procedure.
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if the bullet was forced in hard enough to engage the rifling marks as you say or the projectile gets pushed back into the case (more likely) that causes overpressure and boom. but this never happens because ammo headspaces off the shoulder. so unless the bullet is crimped too far no contact (maybe barely) should happen
some ammo or like 300PRC make a point to seat the bullet further so that it just barely touches/does not but something like a 7.62x39 chamber has a lot of room
watch your blood pressure, sir gun technician
 
hoobdydyadad said:
if the bullet was forced in hard enough to engage the rifling marks as you say or the projectile gets pushed back into the case (more likely) that causes overpressure and boom. but this never happens because ammo headspaces off the shoulder. so unless the bullet is crimped too far no contact (maybe barely) should happen
some ammo or like 300PRC make a point to seat the bullet further so that it just barely touches/does not but something like a 7.62x39 chamber has a lot of room
watch your blood pressure, sir gun technician
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What are your qualifications? And why should we listen to you more then A 50 year gunsmith.

OMG sacrificed a 2$ round. Never once did he say shoot the gun.
 
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