So I was out taking care of some coyotes around the farm today and had something happen that did not make me too happy. First off the rifle is a remington 700 tactical 223 with the X mark pro trigger. Anyway, a coyote came ripping into the call as planned. When he got to about 200 yards I clicked off the safety and BOOM. Coyote took off and I sat there speechless. The trigger is not tampered with in any way. I didn't care so much about loosing the coyote but I am right P O'd about the safety issue on my rifle! It was not banged around at all prior to reaching the stand at all. The gun is kept clean and well looked after. I love remington rifles but this one is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. I own a remington 30-06 and 308 as well. All will be getting new triggers very soon. Anyone have any recommendations for a good trigger? The 308 will be a target only when I'm done with it and will be sporting a jewel, the other 2 are hunters and I'm thinking timney? Sorry, had to vent a little. Thanks for reading.
rem 700 x mark pro fail
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sucks, I hope you get it fixed
I never trust the safety, ever. I dont use it. Safeties can go bad.
This is the way I see it :
if there is a round in the chamber, the rifle can go boom. behave accordingly.
if there is no round in the chamber, the rifle cannot go boom.
I never trust the safety, ever. I dont use it. Safeties can go bad.
This is the way I see it :
if there is a round in the chamber, the rifle can go boom. behave accordingly.
if there is no round in the chamber, the rifle cannot go boom.
Do you hunt predators? Because the sound of chambering a round is a good way to alert a coyote to your presence. Of course, muzzle direction is always controlled, but most hunters keep one in the tube and use the safety… Either way, such a malfunction is unacceptable.
OP, is the rifle still under a warranty?
OP, is the rifle still under a warranty?
I'll be glad to look at that trigger for you, no charge. I have not seen any failures of the new trigger what ever... and of the old failures I have examined it was not the fault of Remington...
Can you duplicate what happened without using live ammo...? If you can I would be really interested in that trigger...
Is there any chance your finger was on the trigger? It happens...
Any Remington 700 trigger can be reworked to a safe crisp light weight for a fraction of the cost of an aftermarket trigger.
Can you duplicate what happened without using live ammo...? If you can I would be really interested in that trigger...
Is there any chance your finger was on the trigger? It happens...
Any Remington 700 trigger can be reworked to a safe crisp light weight for a fraction of the cost of an aftermarket trigger.
I don't think it's under warranty, I picked it up off the ee about a year ago. I cannot duplicate the problem, I've tried for about an hour afterwards. I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the trigger, my finger was not in the trigger guard and I wasn't looking through the scope in the shooting position at the time. But who knows, calling coyotes always gets my adrenalin going, maybe I did touch the trigger. You guys are right, I never rely on my safety. I get to my stand, place the decoy and foxpro, sit down, adjust my bi-pod, load the rifle, safety on and start calling. Even though I can't repeat it, the trigger is toast and a Timney is going in. I want my daughter to shoot this rifle some day and even though safe rifle handling knowledge will be my number one priority, I will always have this incident in the back of my mind. On a brighter note, pup in distress with a full body coyote decoy is a coyote magnet this time of year. Just about nailed my first triple the other morning.
I just took delivery of a new 700 Varmint with the X-Mark Pro trigger. From the box it was 5+ pounds and while it would adjust up to 8+ I could not get it below 4+, at which point the adjustment screw fell out. This will be mainly a bench / target rifle so I am needing something much better than this, I will likely replace it with a Jewel trigger as I have done on a 700 SPS.
The non-adjustable trigger on my 700 CDL is much better, 3+ pounds out of the box.
I haven't had the safety issue described above but my experience with the X-Mark Pro has been disappointing.
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The non-adjustable trigger on my 700 CDL is much better, 3+ pounds out of the box.
I haven't had the safety issue described above but my experience with the X-Mark Pro has been disappointing.
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Sadly, this is why a lot of people don't like the XmarkPro.
They aren't all that bad when you know how to tune them.
Obviously, whenever you tamper with a trigger you know you are taking responsibilities into your own hands. Always, I mean ALWAYS practice safe muzzle directions.
My .22LR has a 4oz trigger and in the short time I've owned it, I've seen it go off 5-6 times unexpectedly. One of those times was with me behind the trigger. It's strictly a load only when you have it pointed at your target rifle and I make damn sure it's that way. All times it's gone off it's hit paper, but it's a stern reminder of how dangerous a lightly tuned trigger can be.
I have a Rem 700 XCR in 300 WM. Came with a 40x trigger. After putting about 300 rds through it, I noticed that the trigger pull varied widely from shot to shot. Tried different adjustments, but couldn't make it work the way I wanted. As well, the pull was uneven at times. My biggest complaint was that on some shots, I barely touched the trigger and it went off, while others had around 2 lbs. Took it out and replaced it with a Timney I got through ATRS. Dropped right in and is crisp and consistent.
THIS! NEVER EVER use a safety in the field. Bolt open, the rifle cannot fire and it is an easy visual verification for you and everyone around you.
I had my gunsmith install and setup a perfectly good used Timney on my 700-7mmRM. $25 plus $100 for the trigger. Fewer worries now.
I only chamber a round at the very start of the hunt (sunrise). After that 30-45 min, I unload and close the bolt on an empty chamber. I assume that the safety will not work during this time (even though it is on).
I only chamber a round at the very start of the hunt (sunrise). After that 30-45 min, I unload and close the bolt on an empty chamber. I assume that the safety will not work during this time (even though it is on).
My father in-law had the same problem, but on an older 80's model R700 in 7MM. Originally, I thought it was the famous problem that we all keep hearing about, or maybe it was a AD - as mentioned, it can and does happen. My father in law is a experienced and safe shooter, so no harm was done to himself of others. I took possession of the rifle, and WAS able to replicate the problem, this was concerning to say the least. Now before I was to make a claim about it, the bolt and trigger mech was completely stripped, cleaned with break free. Turns out the bolt was totally caked in smick. Reassembled, and there hasn't been a problem since. That was 3 years ago.
Your rifle has a newer generation trigger, so it *could* be a different problem, but I would try the above mentioned before sending it off.
Your rifle has a newer generation trigger, so it *could* be a different problem, but I would try the above mentioned before sending it off.
When I'm hunting an area of foot, I"ve always got a round chambered and the safety on....been doing this since like 1968 or so and never ever even once have I had a remington 700 trigger fire unless I've pulled the trigger myself. I can make my 700 triggers fire on releasing the safety but only if they are not adjusted properly....when I read about this on the interwebs I mostly call it BS and inexperience. After many years of hunting with the gear in question, one tends to form steadfast ideas regarding it.
