Remington 11 recoil problem

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well everyso often the action doesn't like to cycle properly and ends up either not ejecting a shell or not beging able to load a fresh one into the chamber.... at some points the slide seases in the forward or full back position.

Sometimes in the back position i have to hit the release button with the back of a screwdriver to get it to come forward and load a shell..


Any ideas?
 
Quite a few years ago a friend of mine bought what turned out to be a nice semi shotgun for $50 from a guy he knew that had the same problem (he even threw in a box of shells). He brought it over to my place, and sure enough it wasn't cycling. I gave it a good cleaning and then looked at the shells. I don't remember what kind they were, other then they were those very cheap target shells. So we popped in some of my heavy game shells and it didn't miss a cycle the rest of the day. What kind of shells are you using?
 
Keep the gun clean but don't over oil it, just a thin coat on what needs to be oiled will do. And beef up the loads too. My AL391 gets used at the skeet club quite a bit and fails to cycle/feed a second shell every now and then. Never had a problem in the duck blind pounding 3" mags all morning.
 
Do you make sure the ports in the barrell for the gas a cleaned. If these are diry then you'll have som issues.
 
seems to have the same problem with slugs as well..... also its a spring rocoil system not gas...... seems now that the slide is stuck in the forward position....
 
this is a old school remmie? barrell moves back to eject shell? i have a 11-48 that had the same issues. i took it apart, cleaned and oiled it and works great now..... you can buy new spring kits for these guns if the springs are worn. The slide has 2 tails on it that tuck into the stock, i bet they have popped out of the guide and are jammed on the butt
 
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my 1100 don't like the winchester target loads but will eat the federals no problem, i have taking it apart and cleaned it well, and it still won't cycle the winchesters any better and 50% of the time, so i try and shoot the federals
 
This is not a "gas" operated shotgun.

I believe the Remington model 11 is a licenced copy of the Browning
Auto five. Both of these use a long recoil action.

I had a similar problem with my Auto five, check that the recoil friction ring & the bronze friction piece are assembled correctly.

A complete cleaning & light lubrication may also be required.
 
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these are fine old guns, but old is the operative word. Mine was built in 1929. Go to Brownells or eBay and look for the owners manual. It explains how to disassemble the gun for cleaning. I would recommend disassembling to the point of having no wood on it, the trigger group removed but intact and the bolt removed. Clean all metal parts thoroughly with kerosene/varsol/favorite goo remover preferably by a long soak and a good brushing. When disassembling, lay everything out in order, including the friction rings and spring as they come off the mag tube. One of the major problems with the Mod11 is residue gets behind the bolt in the recoil space of the receiver. Binds the bolt. Also, residue gets down inside the tube that contains the bolt-recoil spring, and gums that up too. Be very careful removing this spring, it can enter orbit. Clean it and its tube thoroughly. Check the rear of the receiver, there should be a fibrous washer/wad there that stops the recoiling barrel. If absent it needs replacing before further use. Time to reassemble, use the absolute minimum of quality gun oil. I put it on my finger then rub all the metal. A couple of drops in the trigger group. DO NOT OIL THE MAG TUBE. Wipe it throughly with cleaner/degreaser. For the heavy loads you say you have, both friction rings are added after the barrel-recoil spring, small ring first, then large ring with spring clip around it. Rub your oily finger around the inside of the barrel ring, and add the barrel. This is the only oil you need in the recoil mechanism. Over-oiling means it won't absorb recoil forces as it should, and it will beat your receiver to scrap. Now, with a clean, oiled gun, try your loads. If it won't cycle, your loads are not as heavy as you describe. Remove barrel and rings and recoil spring, and reassemble in this order: small ring, spring, large split ring. Try again. This handles most commercial loads from Federal or Remington (although I have misfeeds with Rem, never with Fed). If it still won't cycle, you may have target loads. This time, both friction rings are put on first then the spring. One of these three assemblies will reliably cycle your ammo. Always do the research in this order, to avoid beating scrap out of your receiver.
 
Agreed, this is a Browning A-5 for all mechanical purposes. Clean thoroughly, lightly oil, make sure the friction rings are lubed/oriented properly. Use the correct ammo if you have a Magnum or Nonmagnum gun.
 
thanx, I realize now I only have the one frictionring....brass pice with a ring around it...where should i look for the other ring?
 
If it has a 2-3/4" chamber, it should only have the one bronze ring (and a bevelled steel ring). If it's a 3" gun, it'll have two bronze rings. Check out the Browning website, and look up the details for ring orientation in the A-5 manual.
 
some semis are partial to certain brands of ammo. try some different loads before you give up. the three most important things to enjoying any semi auto are clean, clean and clean.
 
yea im missing the beveled one.....oh..now the slide is locked back and wont come forward.....I just finnished pulling it apart and putting it back togeather....cycled the action a few times no prob but then that happend
 
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