Remington 1858 cylinder not advancing (hand spring issue?)

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Pretty new to the cap and ball world - I picked up an original Remington 1858 New Model Army and it seems the cylinder only advances on cocking when the muzzle is pointed down. It will do so every time in that case. I gather from some light reading that this is most likely to be a broken hand spring, which sounds like a relatively common issue. Anyone more knowledgeable than me want to offer some input, and maybe a suggestion on any sources for a replacement hand spring in Canada? (seems to be lots in the US but rather foolish shipping cost for a small part...)
 
They’re not hard to take apart and work on. You should be able to easily confirm if yours is broken or not even present (it sounds like either could be true). When looking at shipping it would be worth your time to call the store in question and enquire about a lower more sane rate of postage.
 
^^^ Making one is a better option

I don't think anyone makes a direct fit hand spring for an original either.. the copies made by the italian repro companies are a bit different.
 
Been a wile since Ive had my New Model apart but I think I remember the hand spring as just a wire spring with a proper bend in it...should be a snap to build a workable replacement. Or, yours may have just slipped out of the spring holder position.
 
The symptom you describe is definitely a broken or dislodged hand spring. Another way to test this is to take out the cylinder and look at the hand. It should stick out of the recoil shield slightly, and respond with spring pressure if pushed into the frame. To fix it, take off the grip. Remove the main spring, remove the trigger guard and the screws in the side holding the hammer, trigger and cylinder stop. Thake each piece out in succession (hammer last) and slide the hammer and hand down and out of the frame. Temove the little screw holding the hand against the hammer in order to get both pieces out. You will see right away if the hand spring is broken, missing or just came out of its seat. If the latter is the case, insert the spring into the seat and gently compress in a vise to make the slot tighter and seat the spring. Re-assemble in the reverse order. Make sure you put the spring in properly (see picture). If the spring is missing or broken, you will have to make a new one. Not difficult. If it's broken right at the seat, usually you can gently pry the seat open just enough to force out the broken stub and re-insert the remaining spring. Tighten the slot as above. It's probably long enough to still work. Scan1.jpgScan2.jpg
 
^^^ Making one is a better option

I don't think anyone makes a direct fit hand spring for an original either.. the copies made by the italian repro companies are a bit different.
The Italian hand springs come in a few shapes and sizes. Once the OP identifies the shape of his spring, the Italian ones can be made to match exactly, and at a lot less fuss than trying to make one.

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