Remington 1911 finally drops. Who knows

I have the Shooting Times issue with the Remington review. It has a couple bugs to work out, failure to eject, and stovepipes. Overall the review is positive, noting accuracy and improved trigger during the course of testing. Subject to Canadian pricing it may be a worthy addition to an armoury....
On the shelf below the Colts of course.
 
Not a BAD looking pistol but nothing too special. Not a fan of the front sight or the rollmarks. Those two (really minor) points aside, looks like a nice piece.
 
I hear a lot of negative comments about Remington, in general. That's dissappointing, because I always thought Remington was top quality. The last one I bought was a wingmaster, about 20 years ago, and it was very nice. They must have really gone downhill.

I don't see how they could screw up a 1911. It looks totally oldschool. I think sales will be governed by price.
 
I think that over the next year, we are going to see a lot of 1911's being introduced - some of which will come from unlikely companies (perhaps Ruger??). I have two Colts and have no issues with the Series 80, in fact I really like them. This Remmy seems to be novel, but I am sure we are going to get raped on the price once they are in Canada.
 
I now have two Series 80 Colts and I don't mind in the least. Stacks up quite close to my Series 70, but complaining about the minute differences in the pull is like pissing in the wind for me. Out of all the new 1911's to come out this year, I'm still a fan of the STI...or even the Ithaca, though the price is ludicrous. Still curious to see how they all shoot, as I'm sure there will be a couple duds.
 
Rman said:
What is so bad/wrong/different about the Series 80 firing pin block safety? Why is this an undesirable feature?

Thanks.

R.
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It's completely unnecessary and makes for extra work in doing a trigger job. The floating firing pin provides ample drop safety. The upside is that it works better than the Swartz type setup found in Kimbers and S&Ws and can be easily removed if you so wish.

Although I would prefer not to have the Series 80 safety, all things being equal, I wouldn't pass up a 1911 just because it had it.
 
Rman said:
What is so bad/wrong/different about the Series 80 firing pin block safety? Why is this an undesirable feature?

Thanks.

R.
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As noted it makes a perfect trigger pull harder to acheive, but I'd say it does nothing with regards to safety, unless you routinely drop your pistol muzzle first onto concrete from heights in excess of 12 feet. The firing pin "safety" is yet another answer to a question no one was asking.
 
I say FAIL with the new Remingtons. It's stuck uncomfortably between and bares bones GI with some modern bits here and there. If you're going to make a GI it has to be bare bones GI just as original. Rear and front sights aren't traditional, stainless bushing and trigger, beveled mag well, flared ejection port. If I was to buy a GI model it'd be the STI hands down!
 
If they are the same price as the Para G.I. then they should be a decent buy. If not then Para gets the nod. I am in the market for a affordable 1911 and I have been looking at the Para G.I. but now I might have to check out one of these if there available soon.
 
cybershooters said:
A positive review in an American gun magazine of a pistol that they couldn't get to work properly? :eek: I'm shocked.

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hehe! ya, i was thinking the same thing. bugs? BUGS? it's a design that's been around for something like 100 years - how much bloody time do they need to "work out the bugs"...?!?!?!?

that's like someone trying to work out the bugs in an office stapler or PEZ dispenser.

aren't 1911s a "copy-paste" type of operation at this point in time???
 
Gunslinger said:
I say FAIL with the new Remingtons. It's stuck uncomfortably between and bares bones GI with some modern bits here and there. If you're going to make a GI it has to be bare bones GI just as original. Rear and front sights aren't traditional, stainless bushing and trigger, beveled mag well, flared ejection port. If I was to buy a GI model it'd be the STI hands down!
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No, this is fail:
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Para Ordnance is introducing this for the Wild Bunch class in cowboy action shooting. Giant, gaudy, laser-etched markings are oh-so retro-looking, just like the one William Holden's character had.

At least it can be said in Remington's defence that they aren't trying to market their pistol as a GI clone. Not everyone wants all of the "extras" that come on many new guns, such as front slide serrations or full length guide rods, but they might want usable sights or an ejection port that is less likely to dent brass.

That said, I reiterate that I have little optimism that the maker of such gems as the 710/770 can make a 1911 that can run right.
 
blueflash said:
If they are the same price as the Para G.I. then they should be a decent buy. If not then Para gets the nod. I am in the market for a affordable 1911 and I have been looking at the Para G.I. but now I might have to check out one of these if there available soon.
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Check out the Rock Island pistols that Armseast has, their GI actually is GI and their "Tactical" looks like a sensible pistol - very well priced too! And yes, I'd rather have a pistol made in the Phillipines than one with Para stamped on it, maybe the finish will stay put and the slide lock notch won't peen.
 
blueflash said:
If they are the same price as the Para G.I. then they should be a decent buy. If not then Para gets the nod. I am in the market for a affordable 1911 and I have been looking at the Para G.I. but now I might have to check out one of these if there available soon.
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Sorry but the RePara Ordnance never gets the nod.

Finishes that come off almost immediately, sights that just can't stay on the gun, peening and cracking all over the place - do yourself a favor and check Para out before you buy, warranty work is a little harder now that there in the US.
 
Rman said:
What is so bad/wrong/different about the Series 80 firing pin block safety? Why is this an undesirable feature?

Thanks.

R.
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A firing pin block introduces a potential for failure where none previously existed; something about the loudest sound in the world being a click when one expects a bang. Besides that, the firing pin block is completely unnecessary. If the pistol is dropped and strikes the ground with enough force to drive the firing pin forward, with enough energy to fire the cartridge in the chamber (one can only imagine how this might be accomplished as the firing pin spring is quite strong and the gun would have to hit exactly right on the muzzle, which is highly unlikely given the 1911's balance) the bullet would then shoot directly into the ground, blowing out a fist sized divot even on a concrete surface, so there is very little chance of an injury. I wonder if in fact an injury of this nature has ever occurred, even once, over the last hundred years, amongst the millions of people who have carried 1911s in all sorts of mechanical condition, and under all sorts of circumstances. Introducing a gimmick which can cause the piece to fail to fire in a fight is a far more serious problem. A pistol which is rendered completely safe is absolutely useless for the purpose for which it was intended.
 
Boomer said:
A pistol which is rendered completely safe is absolutely useless for the purpose for which it was intended.
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nicely finished! it's like dulling the edges of kitchen knives so that people don't accidentally slice their fingers off while they're distracted watching Jerry on the tele.
 
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