Remington 597 30 round mag won't hold open on last shot

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I've got a small problem with my new 30 round 597 magazine. It doesn't seem to be consistently activating the bolt hold open feature. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any idea how to fix it? My factory 10 round metal magazine activates the bolt hold open flawlessly.

(Note: I have not actually fired the gun using this magazine yet, these observations come solely through the use of an empty magazine)

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cyclone said:
I'm missing something here - if you have not fired it, how are you aware of this difficulty?
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It is only supposed to hold open on last shot (so once the magazine is empty). So by inserting the empty magazine when the bolt is closed, then pulling back the bolt, the same thing should happen as when you have just fired the last shot. It should lock the bolt open.

I'm thinking that the magazine spring may not have enough tension to push up the lock consistently...
 
I found out what the problem is.

The little tab on the left side of the magazine follower that is supposed to push up the piece inside the receiver that holds the bolt open is too narrow, allowing said piece to slip between the tab on the follower and the inside of the receiver.

I will post pictures later to illustrate. Now I've got to decide what to do... return because of a design flaw or fix somehow?
 
sone said:
I found out what the problem is.

The little tab on the left side of the magazine follower that is supposed to push up the piece inside the receiver that holds the bolt open is too narrow, allowing said piece to slip between the tab on the follower and the inside of the receiver.

I will post pictures later to illustrate. Now I've got to decide what to do... return because of a design flaw or fix somehow?
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I have the same clip but haven't used it yet. Just in case...
Please post pictures and explain.
 
rustysdream said:
I have the same clip but haven't used it yet. Just in case...
Please post pictures and explain.
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Pictures 1 and 2 show the followers on the factory magazine and the 30 round magazine.

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Pictures 3 and 4 show what it looks like when the hold-open slips beside the little tab on the left side of the follower. Notice how with the factory magazine, the hold-open extends out further than the bounds of the trigger housing assembly. Also notice how when the hold-open fails to catch on the tab of the 30 round magazine, it is still flush with the trigger housing assembly.

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Above: The hold-open falls outside the bounds of the trigger housing assembly. This would obviously not occur when installed in the receiver, meaning the feature would never fail.

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Above: Same picture but with the 30 round magazine. Note that the hold-open is flush with the trigger housing assembly, which means that when it is installed in the receiver, the potential exists for the hold-open to slip between the tab on the follower and the inner wall of the receiver, causing a failure of the hold-open feature.

The next picture shows what it looks like when the hold-open catches, as it should, on the 30 round magazine. Note how the hold open has to angle inwards in order to catch.

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In sum... the problem results from the tab on the follower being too narrow. This allows the hold-open to slip between the inner wall of the receiver and the tab, resulting in no last-shot hold open!

So, the question remains. Defect or design flaw?
 
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My eagle 597 30 round clips have not had this problem. Did you try to swap out the followers and see if the problem still persists? Or just keep remington factory follower in the 30 round mags.
 
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CNADNSL8-5 said:
My eagle 597 30 round clips have not had this problem. Did you try to swap out the followers and see if the problem still persists? Or just keep remington factory follower in the 30 round mags.
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I just tried and the factory follower does not fit in the 30 round magazine.
 
I have 2 and I also have no problems with the hold-open. It may just be a defective one, but I'd try actually using it before you make any decisions.
 
I did a little very minor sanding on mine, at the spot where the mechanism inside the action clicks into the wall of the mag. The plastic was very rounded there, and the mechanism in the action wouldn't fully seat. 5 minutes on each mag with an emery board to square up the slot on the mag, and mostly the problem is gone. I have 3 of them, 2 function flawlessly and 1 is hit and miss, need to do a little more surgery on that one I suspect.
 
i got my 30 round clip from LeBarons last week i found it on the LeBarons website and it works a lot better the the factroy 10 round clip NO JAMMING yaaaa
 
I have a 597 with a mossy oak stock, browning bipod, nice muzzle break, a huge huge fat red dot, 5 factory mags, 4 30rounders. Not one problem whatsoever.
 
You're lucky! I returned my 30 shot and took home two 10 shot mags instead, because the FTF, FTE were just driving me crazy! Seems like my rifle only likes the clips with steel lips on them, which is a shame, but I'll just load up all three clips and keep them in my pocket to avoid the frustration.
I also noticed that small cracks appeared around the lips on mine just after one use in my rifle. Terrible quality, IMO. When they come out with one that has steel lips I'll try again.
 
I just exchanged the 30 rounder described in the original post for another. I am seeing the same problem, although not as often. The hold open failed about 4 of 25 tries with the new one. I'm kind of disappointed, and I don't want a magazine that doesn't even function as it is supposed to. I may just end up picking up more 10 rounders instead.

The lady at the store said they had been having quite a few problems with them. :(
 
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