Remington 600 bullpup

[rm_rang]

Hey guys

So I’ve come up with this crazy idea to possibly bullpup a Remington 600

I’ve discovered the Remington xp 100 which is basically a Remington 600 rifle but with a 10 3/4 inch barrel and bullpupped to be a pistol

So I was thinking one of 2 things

Buy an xp 100 and build a stock for it to turn it into a rifle

Or

Get a .308 xp 100 barrel and the trigger components from an xp100 and install them onto a Remington 600 so I could have a super short bullpupped .308 truck rifle that is non restricted providing the OAL stays above 660mm

Does anyone have any input on this? Is it possible? Am I overlooking something legally?

The barrel length laws for non restricted bolt action rifles only appears to say I can’t alter it myself below 470 mm but if it’s manufactured that way it can be shorter. Again providing the overall length stays above 660mm

 

[bgcameron]

Bullpup stocks are prohibited.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html

PART 4
Prohibited Devices
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
1 Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.

2 Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.

Regarding the barrel length law- I think the exception for shorter barrels only applies to firearms that already have a NR FRT. For example, if there was a non-restricted remington 600 that came with the 10.75" barrel then it would be ok. Correct me if I am wrong but this is my understanding of it.

 

[rm_rang]

If bullpups are prohibited how is it that we can have the tavor in Canada? Or the t97?

We really need someone who knows that they are talking about when it comes to making laws

 

[rm_rang]

The Remington 600 itself is in fact a non restricted rifle

The XP 100 is a restricted handgun

 

[rifleman762]

If bullpups are prohibited how is it that we can have the tavor in Canada? Or the t97?

We really need someone who knows that they are talking about when it comes to making laws

Bullpups that cannot function without the "stock" are classified as not having a stock. The stock is actually the receiver, if that makes sense. Therefore, there is no prohibited device bullpup stock. Sometimes the RCMP discovers after the fact that the factory stock on a bullpup is actually prohibited. This happened with the Walther G22 rifle.

 

[224MV]

Non restricted xp-100

Hello, this is my first post out of the EE but this thread caught my attention. I seen one online at an auction in Vancouver a few weeks back. I might be wrong but I was told a legal gun verifier could reclassify something like this to a non restricted. There must be a pile of loopholes to go through but it looks like it can be done.

 

[guntech]

Many, many years ago a few XP100 pistols were taken apart and the actions "unregistered" with the RCMP and built into rifles. I know we did it at Barotto Sports in the late 60's and early 70's.

That is no longer the case today, in Canada a restricted firearm can not be converted to a non restricted firearm. Period.

 

[224MV]

Many, many years ago a few XP100 pistols were taken apart and the actions "unregistered" with the RCMP and built into rifles. I know we did it at Barotto Sports in the late 60's and early 70's.

That is no longer the case today, in Canada a restricted firearm can not be converted to a non restricted firearm. Period.

Ok thanks for the clarification, that definitely makes sense. I would guess that the rifle at the auction could possibly be an example of what you’re talking about. I guess it’s also possible that the auction made a mistake in the classification of it?

 

[rifleman762]

Many, many years ago a few XP100 pistols were taken apart and the actions "unregistered" with the RCMP and built into rifles. I know we did it at Barotto Sports in the late 60's and early 70's.

That is no longer the case today, in Canada a restricted firearm can not be converted to a non restricted firearm. Period.

More precisely, a handgun cannot be converted into a long gun. A long gun that is restricted due to being a semi-auto centerfire with a barrel length under 470mm can be de-registered when the barrel is replaced with one over 470mm.

 

[tiriaq]

More precisely, a handgun cannot be converted into a long gun. A long gun that is restricted due to being a semi-auto centerfire with a barrel length under 470mm can be de-registered when the barrel is replaced with one over 470mm.

At the present time a handgun can be converted into a long gun - but the thing is still restricted.

Take a 600 and install a XP100 barrel. Drop it into a conventional rifle stock. If it is over 660mm it should be just a non-restricted firearm.
Install a forward XP100 trigger, and stock it up. Is it a bullpup? Is the stock a bullpup stock?