Remington 700 30-06 Leopold LifeSaver?
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How about the Leupold VX-7 2.5-10x45mm ?
(30mm tube, 3.8" eye relief) ... Oh, it's $1399US. Probably a bit much.
VX-III 3.5-10x40mm Matte Black $479US.
VX-III 4.5-14x40mm Adj. Obj. Matte Black Varmint Hunters Reticle $549US.
(30mm tube, 3.8" eye relief) ... Oh, it's $1399US. Probably a bit much.
VX-III 3.5-10x40mm Matte Black $479US.
VX-III 4.5-14x40mm Adj. Obj. Matte Black Varmint Hunters Reticle $549US.
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- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The 3.5-10X40 is the upper limit of what I would consider to be a good all around scope with enough magnification for long shots and low enough magnification and large enough field of view for close range. Choosing such a scope should allow you to maximize the versatility of the .30/06 cartridge with a single scope.
One advantage Leupold has over other optics manufacturers is that Leupold has a Canadian warranty outlet. Most other manufacturers require their scopes to be shipped out of the country resulting in longish turn around times and some red tape.
One advantage Leupold has over other optics manufacturers is that Leupold has a Canadian warranty outlet. Most other manufacturers require their scopes to be shipped out of the country resulting in longish turn around times and some red tape.
I stopped into a store and had a look through four scopes.
I tried these three out on a fake rifle stock, and didn't like any of them:
a) Bushnell 3200 3-9x40
b) Bushnell 3200 5-15
c) Bushnell 4200 2.5-10x40
I found it hard to see a round paper target that was 20' away. It was in focus and there, but just hard to see. When I turned the magnification up the lit area of the image got very small. Perhaps I had my head in the wrong place. None of these were as good as I remembered from 20 years back when I shot with an unknown scope last.
Then I tried
d) Bushnell 6500 2.5-16x42 with 30mm tube.
MUCH BETTER. Target was very easy to see. Big and bright and clear at all magnifications. This one I held in freehand (rather than on a fake gun stock) -- I'm not sure if that made a difference. Better even than what I remember from 20 years back when I shot with an unknown scope last.
I tried these three out on a fake rifle stock, and didn't like any of them:
a) Bushnell 3200 3-9x40
b) Bushnell 3200 5-15
c) Bushnell 4200 2.5-10x40
I found it hard to see a round paper target that was 20' away. It was in focus and there, but just hard to see. When I turned the magnification up the lit area of the image got very small. Perhaps I had my head in the wrong place. None of these were as good as I remembered from 20 years back when I shot with an unknown scope last.
Then I tried
d) Bushnell 6500 2.5-16x42 with 30mm tube.
MUCH BETTER. Target was very easy to see. Big and bright and clear at all magnifications. This one I held in freehand (rather than on a fake gun stock) -- I'm not sure if that made a difference. Better even than what I remember from 20 years back when I shot with an unknown scope last.
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- marmora ontario
Hey, If one uses an Accelerator in 30-06 is it ok? Would the CO's bust you? would it stand up in court as a .22 !! I've used them here to shoot groundhogs and never felt guilty. The silly 275 rule in S.Ontario is just that silly. JITC
VX-III 3.5-10x50mm - 19.5 oz
VX-III 3.5-10x40mm - 13.0 oz
VX-7 2.5-10x45mm - 19.2 oz
Elite 4200 2.5-10x40 - 16.0 oz
Elite 4200 2.5-10x50 - 22.0 oz
Elite 6500 2.5-16x42 - 17.3 oz
Elite 6500 2.5-10x50 - 21.0 oz
Also something to think about. An extra 1/2 lb can wear on you after carrying it all day.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
They'll probably tell you that .30 caliber is .30 caliber and submunitions don't alter the fact. I agree though, it is silly, and makes me glad that I live where I do.
manbearpig
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ehh, its an excuse to buy more guns 
this way you get to say to your wife or g/f 'but honey, i need a new gun - look it says it right here in the hunting regulations that it has to be under .275'.
this way you get to say to your wife or g/f 'but honey, i need a new gun - look it says it right here in the hunting regulations that it has to be under .275'.
I went to Outdoor World (Vaughan, near highway 400 north of 407 at Bass Pro).
I looked at
- Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40mm
- Leupold VXIII 4.5-14x40mm
- Bushnell 4200 2.5-10x40mm (as a control between the two stores)
I didn't see anything that really impressed me.
The Leupolds seemed to have a brown tint.
The Leupold 4.5-14x40 I looked at, had a very thin reticle that disappeared in the vertical striped wall I was looking at.
The Leupolds I found hard to focus when shifting magnification and far/near targets.
Contrary to the dire-warnings above, I didn't find the 4.5 to be overly magnified vs the 3.5.
As for brightness and visual clarity, there wasn't a stricking difference between the three of them.
I was expecting to be astounded by the Leupolds -- given the way people rave about them.
The "Leupold VXIII 4.5-14x40mm"'s focus knob was stuck -- but the store clerk gave it a sturdy two handed crushing twist and grunt, broke it loose, and it worked fine thereafter.
I looked at
- Leupold VXIII 3.5-10x40mm
- Leupold VXIII 4.5-14x40mm
- Bushnell 4200 2.5-10x40mm (as a control between the two stores)
I didn't see anything that really impressed me.
The Leupolds seemed to have a brown tint.
The Leupold 4.5-14x40 I looked at, had a very thin reticle that disappeared in the vertical striped wall I was looking at.
The Leupolds I found hard to focus when shifting magnification and far/near targets.
Contrary to the dire-warnings above, I didn't find the 4.5 to be overly magnified vs the 3.5.
As for brightness and visual clarity, there wasn't a stricking difference between the three of them.
I was expecting to be astounded by the Leupolds -- given the way people rave about them.
The "Leupold VXIII 4.5-14x40mm"'s focus knob was stuck -- but the store clerk gave it a sturdy two handed crushing twist and grunt, broke it loose, and it worked fine thereafter.
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That would make practical sense -- except it's my intent to relive something that I once enjoyed.
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So I'm doing this first.
I don't know which way I'll go for my second rifle -- but it'll probably be something more typical.
That would make practical sense -- except it's my intent to relive something that I once enjoyed.
So I'm doing this first.
I don't know which way I'll go for my second rifle -- but it'll probably be something more typical.
Rangebob? wow reading this post really has me confused? If you want to relive a memory from 20 years ago what difference does it matter what caliber you shoot 30-06 is not a benchrest caliber as for all these fancy scopes on 30-06's that’s just was waste of money 3-9 or even 10 power tops. Shooting gophers with a 30-06? wow must have some deep pockets to feed that caliber. Next 30-06 sporter barrel on gophers 3 shots and your not going to hit anything until you wait for your barrel to cool down.
Really you need to start at square one pick a caliber that suits what you want to do. Clearly 30-06 is not that caliber if it’s a memory you want to relive then relive the memory with a caliber that suits what your want to shot.
Two you said your eyes aren't as good anymore.... ok buy a scope that working for the caliber you picked and the type of shooting you want to do.
Three then go out to whatever field you used to shoot in or what ever with a caliber that makes sense with a scope that makes sense and relive this memory.
I'm out
just my two cents!!!! 
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Wow, there ia alot of advise here, but I have yet to hear something practical.
First gun, varmits, Scopes fit for the rich, calibers to make a gopher disintegrate.
A 30-06 is used to hunt large game, not small animals.
A scope that is over $1000 bucks?
You need to sit back and really decide as to what you want to shoot at.
22-250 for yotes and gophers, low recoil, cheap rounds.
Maybe a 223 would work for you as well.
I wise friend told me that there is a caliber for every occasion.
Start with something you can afford to put in the closet if you get board or start a collection and upgrade as you grow.
My wise friend thought long and hard about a caliber for me when I started. Taught me well and I am slowly upgrading the low end equiptment as my love for the sport increases.
My Goal is to have an ARMORY one day.
PROTECT AND DEFEND.
First gun, varmits, Scopes fit for the rich, calibers to make a gopher disintegrate.
A 30-06 is used to hunt large game, not small animals.
A scope that is over $1000 bucks?
You need to sit back and really decide as to what you want to shoot at.
22-250 for yotes and gophers, low recoil, cheap rounds.
Maybe a 223 would work for you as well.
I wise friend told me that there is a caliber for every occasion.
Start with something you can afford to put in the closet if you get board or start a collection and upgrade as you grow.
My wise friend thought long and hard about a caliber for me when I started. Taught me well and I am slowly upgrading the low end equiptment as my love for the sport increases.
My Goal is to have an ARMORY one day.
PROTECT AND DEFEND.
manbearpig
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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hes stated at least four or five times that he wants a .30-06 -- so if thats what he really wants let him get one and stop badgering him
i can think of several better calibers and scopes for what hell be doing but if hes truly happy with a .30-06 and high power scope, who cares? as long as bedliner or a dremel isnt involved he wont have any problem getting back 90% of his money on a 700 CDL in .30-06 whenever he wants, so its not like itll be a bad investment.
i can think of several better calibers and scopes for what hell be doing but if hes truly happy with a .30-06 and high power scope, who cares? as long as bedliner or a dremel isnt involved he wont have any problem getting back 90% of his money on a 700 CDL in .30-06 whenever he wants, so its not like itll be a bad investment.
Wait a minute here!!!
A stock can be changed and a scope can be upgraded. You have to start some where. Look for a caliber that suites your purpose and upgrade as you go.
Even a wise friend can be a SMART A$$....
I do appreciate the advice.
But I reserve the right not to take it, when it doesn't seem appropriate to me.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say I value the experience and the correct thinking, and I probably even agree with the advice. I'll use some of it to shape my thoughts in the longer term future.
The rifle is purchased. It came with the limbsaver. I am happy with the purchase. This not a tool for a business. It's a hobby. One of several. For me, in this case, it doesn't have to be cost effective. I have not yet purchased the scope.
At the range, 20 years ago, it only took a few rounds for my shoulder to get sore. I weighed a lot less then too, and wasn't nearly as strong. I'm hoping to be a 3am range shooter, once every other month or so.
I doubt I'll be going deer hunting, but the deer hunters I know often go out with only one bullet.
This is the wrong caliber for rifle night at the semi-local range. (an ongoing weekly competition). If I decide to pursue that, I'll need a corresponding rifle. But for that, I hope people will let me try their's, there.
But I reserve the right not to take it, when it doesn't seem appropriate to me.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say I value the experience and the correct thinking, and I probably even agree with the advice. I'll use some of it to shape my thoughts in the longer term future.
That was probably the most useful piece of advice in the thread, and ironically the one that I was trying to avoid. I'm a big internet shopper. Nevertheless it got me off my butt and driving 200km around looking through the scopes -- which were the only thing I wasn't pretty sure about.manbearpig said:
The rifle is purchased. It came with the limbsaver. I am happy with the purchase. This not a tool for a business. It's a hobby. One of several. For me, in this case, it doesn't have to be cost effective. I have not yet purchased the scope.
I doubt ammunition is going to be a problem. If I put 50 rounds through it per year I'll be surprised.
As I recall, ground hogs would stand in groups of 3 to 5, perched by their holes. We'd lay down in the dirt in the trees, 150m to 350m away, put the rifles on the sandbags, and line them up talking quietly to coordinate. With the first simultanious shot the others would dart underground. Two rifles, one per person, two dead groundhogs. We went to confirm their demise -- and you're right a 30-06 hollowpoint does kill a groundhog rather thorougly and instantly. Then we'd walk a few fields over. Barrels were long since cool by then.
At the range, 20 years ago, it only took a few rounds for my shoulder to get sore. I weighed a lot less then too, and wasn't nearly as strong. I'm hoping to be a 3am range shooter, once every other month or so.
I doubt I'll be going deer hunting, but the deer hunters I know often go out with only one bullet.
This is the wrong caliber for rifle night at the semi-local range. (an ongoing weekly competition). If I decide to pursue that, I'll need a corresponding rifle. But for that, I hope people will let me try their's, there.
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