Remington 700 7mm
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Which 7mm??
Folks are gonna ask.
Either way , the 30-06 is going to have the edge on almost all 7mm chamberings.
Folks are gonna ask.
Either way , the 30-06 is going to have the edge on almost all 7mm chamberings.
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He meant which 7mm chambering as there are many. 7mm-08, .280 Rem, .284 Win, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm STW, 7mm RUM are all quite common.
meat damage is caused by various things..hitting bone, a bullet that's too frangible and comes apart on impact, impact velocit too high for bullet contruction and others.
the cartridge holding the bullet and powder charge has exactly nothing to do with meat damage.
In other words....a well constructed bullet out of the 7mm Rem Mag will cause less damage than a poorly constructed bullet out of the 30-06...and vice-versa
"...the better gun..." Same rifle. Different chambering.
"...superior to the .30-06..." Nonsense. A 7mm Mag will not do anything a .30-06 won't do just as well.
"...ranges beyond 300 yards..." Very few hunters should ever take a shot that far away.
"...superior to the .30-06..." Nonsense. A 7mm Mag will not do anything a .30-06 won't do just as well.
"...ranges beyond 300 yards..." Very few hunters should ever take a shot that far away.
Arguing the advantages of the 7mm Reg Mag vs 30-06 amount to pure, unadulterated ballistic masturbation.
You'd have to go far beyond 300 yards to find a practical difference, and even then, 98% of hunters/shooters aren't good enough to make the difference pay off. Having hunted extensively with both for 30+ years, I'll take a 30-06, thank-you. Easily 98% of my shots over the years have been inside of 300 yards, and IMHO, the 30-06 is the better cartridge, and you'd be hard pressed to see the difference at 400 yards in the field.
Because everyone knows, 30-06 bullets just fall out of the air past 300 yards
You'd have to go far beyond 300 yards to find a practical difference, and even then, 98% of hunters/shooters aren't good enough to make the difference pay off. Having hunted extensively with both for 30+ years, I'll take a 30-06, thank-you. Easily 98% of my shots over the years have been inside of 300 yards, and IMHO, the 30-06 is the better cartridge, and you'd be hard pressed to see the difference at 400 yards in the field.
Because everyone knows, 30-06 bullets just fall out of the air past 300 yards
Maybe I should have put "all else being equal." Given the same shot placement, equal bullet construction and a bullet of similair SD the 7mm RM will damage more meat due to more velocity.
Arguing the advantages of the 7mm Reg Mag vs 30-06 amount to pure, unadulterated ballistic masturbation.
You'd have to go far beyond 300 yards to find a practical difference, and even then, 98% of hunters/shooters aren't good enough to make the difference pay off. Having hunted extensively with both for 30+ years, I'll take a 30-06, thank-you. Easily 98% of my shots over the years have been inside of 300 yards, and IMHO, the 30-06 is the better cartridge, and you'd be hard pressed to see the difference at 400 yards in the field.
Because everyone knows, 30-06 bullets just fall out of the air past 300 yards
I definitly didn't insinuate the .30-06 is useless past 300 yards, just that the 7mm RM is better. It holds more energy, it shoots flatter given a bullet of similair SD. Ballistic masterbation? You bet, given that 98% of hunters don't and shouldn't shoot a game animal at that distance. Doesn't make it untrue though.
Arguing the advantages of the 7mm Reg Mag vs 30-06 amount to pure, unadulterated ballistic masturbation.
You'd have to go far beyond 300 yards to find a practical difference, and even then, 98% of hunters/shooters aren't good enough to make the difference pay off. Having hunted extensively with both for 30+ years, I'll take a 30-06, thank-you. Easily 98% of my shots over the years have been inside of 300 yards, and IMHO, the 30-06 is the better cartridge, and you'd be hard pressed to see the difference at 400 yards in the field.
Because everyone knows, 30-06 bullets just fall out of the air past 300 yards
Maybe you would be hard pressed to see the difference.
Who cares, if we couldn't argue over the microscopical differences between cartridges what good is this forum? Why do we have wildcatters and not to mention the huge overlap as well as duplication of factory offerings? The 7mm Mag offers more velocity and therefore a flatter trajectory. What you do with that is your business.
I live and hunt in Alberta farm country. A quarter section is roughly 440 yards from fence line to fence line. I'll let your imagination do the rest.
Yes... the 7mm Rem Mag is far better at longer ranges, shooting flatter and with more punch... It should as it uses more powder and has more recoil. Either cartridge will work fine. You still have to hit the kill area regardless of distance.
The main performance difference you will notice is a 7mm rem mag shoots flatter. 7mm bullets also have a higher sectional density and higher ballistic coefficient for a given bullet weight. example a 162 gr 7mm bullet is tougher and more aerodynamic then a 165 gr 30 cal bullet. The sectional density of a 162 gr 7mm bullet is about the same as most 30 cal 180 grain bullets. If you use the right bullet from either caliber at shorter ranges you wont notice any difference in the way it kills big game, At longer ranges the 7mm rem mag gets my vote. The real difference will be trajectory and more retained energy and velocity at longer distances and less wind drift. Past 400 yards there is a difference.
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IF you use that distance you will screw yourself eventually, as I did many years ago. Lost a huge buck with my "knowing" a 1/4 was 440 yards, up until I under shot him significantly and then laser ranged the distance.
A 1/4 normal square shaped section is 1 HALF a mile by 1 HALF a mile square or 880 yards from fence line to fence line.
OP Either caliber will easily kill anything on this continent at much further than 300 yards, the 7 Rem Mag may have a slight advantage at long range, but bullet placement is the biggest factor.
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I've been toying with getting a new bolt action for a moose hunt on the rock next year and have it narrowed down to a choice between the win model 70 extreme weather and weatherby vanguard series 2 stainless syn. Leaning toward the vanguard because i don't feel the win is worth the extra money.Also narrowed it down between the .30-06 , the .300 wsm , and 7mm rem.Leaning heavily toward the .30-06.I think i can find a good enough handload to negate the difference in the three on game.
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I'll put it to you like this.
It doesn't matter!!!
Both have the ability to harvest a game animal much further than we can utilize our so called master marksman skills!!
Shut up and shoot!!!
Oh forgot to mention, fit and comfort trump ballistics!
It doesn't matter!!!
Both have the ability to harvest a game animal much further than we can utilize our so called master marksman skills!!
Shut up and shoot!!!
Oh forgot to mention, fit and comfort trump ballistics!
