Remington 700 extractor.

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rather than derail the push-feed M70 thread i thought id start a new thread on this.

has anyone here actually experienced, repaired or seen an extractor failure with a Remington 700?

some people do the Sako extractor mod, many say they dont trust them - but despite how wimpy they look i dont actually know anyone who had one break, nor have any of mine ever failed/broken. then again i dont shoot nearly as much as some people around here.

there are some interesting posts from both sides of the fence here:
jarheadtop.com/faq_40x_or_rem_700_action.htm

any comments from 700 owners?
 
Over the years, I have seen: broken M700 extractors; broken Sako type extractors; broken Savage/Winchester style sliding extractors; broken Mauser type extractors; broken Lee Enfield extractors. I have also seen cases stuck in the chamber, with a chunk torn out in rifles with M700, Sako, Winchester/Savage, Mauser style and Lee Enfield extractors. I have seen a M700 with the lip on the bolt nose torn out because the extractor would not release, and the cartridge rim would not shear.
They all work; they all can fail under certain conditions. Keep the chamber clean, don't get silly with the loads, and problems will be kept to a minimum. Extraction system failure is usually related to chamber/cartridge case issues, not to the design of the extractor.
I will say that the rivetted M700 extractors are a pain to replace.
 
I have not broken a Remington extractor in the last twelve years of professional use, nor have I broken any other type of extractor.
Another local Trapper did have one break which is why I have four spares....and I expect to still have them as spares in twenty years.
 
Coincidentally, I was just talking to a friend yesterday about an extraction problem on a Rem 700.

The extractor is pulling off the rim and leaving the case in the chamber. He has twice had it to a gunsmith (2 different smiths) who supposedly fixed it. Both times it fired and extracted twice then failed again.

He wasn't clear if the smiths actually replaced the extractor, which doesn't appear to be actually broken, or just cleaned it, shifted it back in to position or whatever.

Any suggestions as to what to check out?
 
Is the extractor slipping, or are the cases sticking? The extractor can be adjusted or replaced, but if the cases are sticking, that problem will have to be solved.
 
Dogleg said:
I broke one this winter, a buddy broke one last fall. A PH I hunted with broke one last summer. That's all I can think of, funny that they showed up in a streak like that.
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Well thank you Dogleg....ten to one that I break one in the near future.

It is how the world works.
 
I am aware that the extractors on most systems will fail. The Remington system is no exception. However, after owning and shooting a lot of 700's (100+) over the years, I have yet to break one myself. I had one that failed to extract after a rebarrel, but it turns out the 'smith had touched the extractor with something and damaged it. Replacement by said 'smith resolved the issue. FWIW, I have one M700 that is on it's third barrel, and still has the original extractor! The number of cases it has extracted is probably in the area of 10,000. It's somewhat like the issue of bolt handles coming off a 700 when the Silver Solder fails. It happens, but is far from common enough to worry about. Wild a** loads cause problems that would otherwise never happen. Regards, Eagleye.
 
I had one fail on a BDLSS magnum caliber a while ago.Dave Jennings repaired it and explained the differences in the sako style and the factory riveted style.I stayed riveted,ended up selling the rifle so I can't say if the repaired stayed long.RB
 
I have had to replace 2 M-700 extractors which after long use began to skip past the cartrige rims. One was a hard used M-700 .30/06 some 25 years ago and the second is a M-7 in .243 that is out for a replacement right now. No idea of the round count of either rifle, but they were up there.
 
FWIW I was concerned about this a few years ago and took my rifle to a smith for the Sako replacement. He talked me out of it said it wasn't worth it. I have never had a problem to date with any of the 700's I have owned.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Dogleg was your gun and your friends old rifles/ lots of use guns or new not used/much guns. Just curious if it is a prone to breakage with wear, bad one from factory or just random.
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ROA,
Mine was relatively new. I picked the .300 Win Mag PSS up new in the fall and wasn't getting the accuracy I wanted. It started to jump the rim while working up loads, and I was at 500 rounds when I gave up on it. Most of that was shot in a weeks time. I rebarreled with a 1-11 Lilja and Holland Lug, blueprinted the action (It was a mess), bedded in Devcon, changed the pad and forget all about the extractor. The first time I shot it the extractor broke so I took that back. There wasn't much that was right about that rifle, but when I took it out today to work new loads I got 3 groups in a row that were under 1 inch at 200 yards. It seems like it was worth the hassle.
My buddies rifle was several years old and a STW built by Jim Dugan. I don't know that round count on that one, but he must have a half dozen rifles of that caliber so the use gets spread out a bit. Knowing him the rifle never ever saw a light load.
The PHs gun was very old and well used. He used mostly factory loads in small guns.
 
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