I know because this was the cause in every case of firing on safety release, where the trigger had not been misadjusted, that I saw in the years I was doing Remington warranty service. I did not say there is a broken part. A flawed or faulty part, perhaps, but unlikely to be a broken part.
Remington 700 Fired With no Trigger Pull
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I know because this was the cause in every case of firing on safety release, where the trigger had not been misadjusted, that I saw in the years I was doing Remington warranty service. I did not say there is a broken part. A flawed or faulty part, perhaps, but unlikely to be a broken part.
I had a similar thing happen with one of mine a few years ago. Flicked off the safety to remove the chambered round after returning to the truck and when I flicked the safety off the rifle discharged. I follow the safe practices so it discharged in a safe direction... still unsettled me. It has never done it again even trying to get it to happen. Trigger is far to good to send it in for recall. But I make extra sure to only keep a round in the chamber right before I fire.
That is the plan, wanted to get an idea if others that just a good cleaning was all that was needed to make it safe.
It seems as though you guys agree. I just have to make time to get it to him.
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There is a recall for the XMP trigger, which is a lot later.
I did another search and found this link, I may see if my rifle meets this criteria but it did not before.
Nothing was done right after the CNBC documentary came out.
http://remingtonfirearmsclassactionsettlement.com/
I got the gun back, he had it done in a half a day.
He said it had been adjusted, did not say if it was screwed up or not but made sure it was set to the factory 3 1/2lbs or so.
The internals were gummed up from oil, he got it all cleaned up and it is crisp now and the trigger rebounds properly now.
$40 and done
He said it had been adjusted, did not say if it was screwed up or not but made sure it was set to the factory 3 1/2lbs or so.
The internals were gummed up from oil, he got it all cleaned up and it is crisp now and the trigger rebounds properly now.
$40 and done
I got the gun back, he had it done in a half a day.
He said it had been adjusted, did not say if it was screwed up or not but made sure it was set to the factory 3 1/2lbs or so.
The internals were gummed up from oil, he got it all cleaned up and it is crisp now and the trigger rebounds properly now.
$40 and done
Gummed up is the most common problem... that combined with a light setting. What usually happens is the trigger is in the pulled position and released and the bolt operated... but the light spring setting can not overcome the dried gummed up oil/debris to reset the sear correctly. It may reset it enough to temporarily catch the cocking piece on bolt closing but then it fails to hold the sear and miraculously you have a rifle fire without the trigger being pulled.
Triggers require regular maintenance... as little as dousing with lighter fluid and blowing it out every one or two years... especially if they have been set quite light.
Lighter fluid is going into my kit for that gun now.
I use it to hunt in the winter, so I want to make sure that I do not have it rusting, so I have to be able to use something to get the water out and dry things out.
I guess a hair dryer would also help.
This reply is so CORRECT in so many ways.
Over the past month, I've worked on about a dozen rifles, for friends/acquaintances, where the only problem was NEGLECT OF PROPER CLEANING.
I won't go into detail. Guntech spelled it out perfectly.
Suffice to say, just cleaning the bore and the exterior of the firearm, without pulling off the stock to clean the trigger group and bolt are just setting up a situation for a failure of some sort. Not usually dangerous but as in the OP, it could be.
You don't have to disassemble the trigger group to clean it properly. You don't even have to detach it from the receiver. A quick spray with GUNK and a rinse with varsol will get all the stuff that attracts grit and will dissolve the oils that gum things up. Another splash of Varsol and that trigger will be safe for another season. Varsol has a very slight trace of oil in its composition. The carriers will evaporate and leave enough oil behind to lube.
The bolts should be disassembled, cleaned and oiled lightly. Graphite is even better. Some folks even use Graphite on their trigger groups.
This is what I thought I as doing. I used Remington action cleaner, just not quite as harsh as brake cleaner. I talked to the gunsmith about this and he said that if the gun was oiled before and it went hard that you actually have to pull the parts apart and clean all that off and re-assemble, that you could not just spray in some cleaner and be done with it.
I have a new method to clean this trigger group out specifically now.
The weird part is that this has never happened in any other trigger group I have even come across, yet most of the guns I hunt with are military surplus. The ones that are not are Remington 870s, a 7600, random 22s. I have handled some that were so gummed up the trigger was gritty yet they never failed in any dangerous way, only the 700 has ever failed dangerously.
Yup, I agree, to a point. I haven't had to take down a Remington 700 trigger group to clean one up yet but I believe that under certain circumstances, especially those with very light trigger pull adjustments, that may be the case. When the sear engagement tolerances are honed close and sharp, maintenance is much easier. Sometimes the factory sear engagement edge isn't as sharp as would be optimal. Combine that with a light adjustment and trouble can and will occur.
When I mentioned cleaning, I should have been a bit more explicit. When I spray in some GUNK, I let it soak in for a few hours before washing the crud out with Varsol. I also have my shop plumbed for compressed air at several points so that also makes a big difference.
The last Remington I worked on had a trigger pull set at around a pound. Fine for off the bench shooting, if the engagement surfaces are sharp and positive engagement can be attained but to set that trigger so light, with almost no over travel is just an accident waiting to happen with an off the shelf rifle. The Remington triggers aren't much different from other triggers of similar design, IMHO, just not made up to the same standard. However, with some gentle stoning, these triggers can and do function safely and with a decent trigger pull adjustment around a pound and a half.
I used a factory trigger on my last HBR rifle with an eight ounce setting. It was completely worked over of course and I took it off the rifle before I sold it. That trigger wouldn't have been safe for hunting, without some work being done to it, such as replacing the safety features.
